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TodCreasey Supporting Member of TMP10 Jun 2019 9:25 a.m. PST

I was casting about to see if what I had could be used for later or earlier conflicts.

It looks like 1689 or the War of the League of Augsburg is much more "regimental" looking and ECW troops only are good as early as the Bishop's War.

I have New Model Army and Covenantors – anything I missed?

Timbo W10 Jun 2019 9:34 a.m. PST

Thirty years war should be OK, the swedes had several Scots regiments too.

Daniel S10 Jun 2019 11:01 a.m. PST

Thirty years war should be OK, the swedes had several Scots regiments too.

They did but the Scots in Swedish service didn't look much like Scots at all, the Scots serving with Gustavus had been reclothed several times in either Swedish or Danish service before being given their "invasion" uniforms in 1630. Eyewitnesses do not report any form of Scottish dress as the Scots marched through Germany. (The exception being the Scots in the Marquis of Hamiltons army who inspired the famous Stettin print and those guys mainly deserted or died from disease & starvation)

So far the historical reality, in a wargames army one is free to tweak and adopt that as one sees fit. After all if Napoleonic gamers can fight Austerlitz with 1815 uniforms then the Pike & Shot gamer should be free to use hooden gray and blue bonnets in Swedish service.

Daniel S10 Jun 2019 11:08 a.m. PST

I am assuming that your New Model is the classic version with infantry in red coats and cavalry in buffcoat with blackend armour?

If so flag swaps should allow you to turn the troops into the Imperial Austrian army which fought the Swedes in Poland, Denmark and Pommerania from 1657 to 1660 as part of the Northern War/Deluge.
The Imperial infantry wore red uniforms
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And their Kürassiers basicly had the same look as the New Model horse (Details were different such as the helmet styles with Austrians using the Zischägge rather than the 3-bar pot and so on) But the general apperance was much the same if you add new flags and perhaps a new command stand or two for the Imperial generals.

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Jun 2019 12:56 p.m. PST

And of course you can use them for various wars the Republic fought against its enemies in the 1660s.

Henry Martini10 Jun 2019 7:32 p.m. PST

There are the various colonial conflicts in the New World involving Indians, buccaneers, and small European forces, including the 1655 attempted invasion of Hispaniola and capture of Jamaica, with NMA units serving in both campaigns.

Skeptic11 Jun 2019 6:02 a.m. PST

There was also the Flanders campaign:

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bruntonboy11 Jun 2019 8:23 a.m. PST

As others have said your ECW troops with new flags and maybe command stands will fit into any contemporary European battle. The trick is flags, new generals and maybe some stand out different troops- eg a French 30YW army with a unit of exotic Croats, mounted Musketeers and armoured lancers, new flags and commanders is going to look different without really changing very much.

Paul Richardson12 Jun 2019 4:52 a.m. PST

Perhaps you should think about earlier conflicts. As a boy we went on family holidays in Switzerland, Austria and Bavaria. I can remember seeing somewhere – probably in a palace but just possibly in a church – a painting which I think was called something like 'Alexander at the Granicus'. It featured Alexander and some of his troops. It was painted presumably during the Renaissance because all the troops were in Renaissance garb. You could think about taking that a step further…..

French Wargame Holidays30 Jun 2019 2:23 a.m. PST

The Breton French Catholic leauge campaigns

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