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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 3:38 p.m. PST

Rubicon Models presents the 37mm GMC M6 (WC55) Fargo

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Amicalement
Armand

Silurian06 Jun 2019 5:10 p.m. PST

Always loved this combination. A great variety of AFVs to field in Tunisia – not sure if this made it as far as Italy.
I play 1/72 and the ESCI is a beauty of a kit, but this looks fantastic for the 1/48-28mm players.

Richard Baber07 Jun 2019 12:02 a.m. PST

I have the Esci model with my Tunisian Tank destroyer unit :)

shaun from s and s models07 Jun 2019 5:24 a.m. PST

the 37 on the dodge made it to NWE in the french army

Richard Baber07 Jun 2019 8:29 a.m. PST

Really?? Didn`t know that which units still had them Shaun?

shaun from s and s models07 Jun 2019 9:37 a.m. PST

no idea richard, stewart knows though but he won't go on here!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Jun 2019 11:40 a.m. PST

Happy you like it my friends!. (smile)

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Armand

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP07 Jun 2019 12:38 p.m. PST

An interesting bit of kit to be sure.

C-in-C (now LegionsIVHire?) makes a nice model in 1/285 (6mm) scale. I have a platoon to supplement my company of 75mm M3 TDs for my US Army Tunisia force.

… not sure if this made it as far as Italy.

the 37 on the dodge made it to NWE in the french army

The M6 was removed from the US Army TD units during the later phases of the Tunisia campaign. The 601st TD Battalion still had them during their epic battle at El Guettar. But after that they were largely pulled back out of service (if and when there was something to replace them with).

Even the M3 TD was taken out of service in the US TDs prior to Sicily. No TDs were engaged in the Sicilian campaign (some TD units sent forces to Sicily, but mostly their Recon units, or dismounted crews to serve as PoW guards). By the time of the Salerno landings all US TD forces deployed in theater had been re-equipped with M10s, while some that did not deploy to Italy at Salerno, but would eventually make it ashore in Italy, were re-equipping with towed 3-inch guns.

As replacements / re-equipping took place, the M6s were turned in to depots by the TD formations. Often the guns were dismounted by field workshops, and the "Fargo" trucks then re-used. This led to some quantity of 37mm AT guns in vehicle mountings being available in local MTO depots. Some of these were snatched up by combat engineering units, who mounted them on their own halftracks as some added combat fire support. Some whole M6s were also snatched up, and they appeared from time to time in various HQ units or other places where they were not on the TOE. Again, as far as I have seen, it appears that combat engineering units were the most likely to have snatched them up. (They also seem to have snatched up a number of 57mm M1 AT guns that US Armored Infantry units abandoned during the ETO campaign, so I have a general impression that US Army combat engineering formations were a bit acquisitive when it came to cannons.)

M3 75mm TDs were seconded to the Brits, who used them as fire-support for their armored car squadrons. I've never seen definitive information on whether this was done through normal lend-lease purchasing/shipment processes, or just seconding off in-theater. Tt appears only to be in Italy that British A/C squadrons were so-equipped, so I expect it was in fact M3s seconded off as the TDs re-equipped after Tunisia.

I would be interested to find out whether the French in ETO had officially provided LL M6s, or just picked up some seconded-off vehicles in Tunisia. After all most of the French formations in North Africa (a substantially sized force) were re-equipped and retrained in North Africa with US kit after the Tunisian campaign. Seems entirely plausible, if not likely, that they picked up various discards at depots as they were drawing new vehicles.

I'd be interested to see how various rules treat the M6. Rulesets that I have played treat it as a soft vehicle. Well, it is after all a truck. But that big old gunshield was there for a reason. In action the gun were probably at least as well protected as a towed AT gun crew, if not more, at least where small arms and MG fire are concerned (perhaps not so much from HE fragments, as being mounted high, rather than dug-in, would be a significant detriment to protection). So it's kind of a hybrid between a soft vehicle and an armored target.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Richard Baber07 Jun 2019 1:06 p.m. PST

The US Rangers had M3 75GMCs in Sicily and later at Anzio, when the battalions were destroyed at Cisterna, the M3s and survivors were folded into the 1st Special Service Force and served with them during Anvil/Dragoon the invasion of Southern France.

Silurian07 Jun 2019 1:48 p.m. PST

Thanks for all that info Mark.

ptdockyard08 Jun 2019 5:34 a.m. PST

I read a reference of M6 GMCs serving as convoy escorts in France. No idea where I read that. I also have two pictures of a camouflaged M6 in the South Pacific. Not a vehicle I would want to be on for jungle warfare, canister shot or not….


Also, some of the re-purposed 37mm on halftracks saw action in N-Africa (The old Purnell's WW2 series in 1972 had a picture of an M2 with the 601st TB Battalion mounting one) and in France. A few years ago someone put up a picture here of an M3 GMC on the beaches at Normandy of all places!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2019 1:20 p.m. PST

Glad you like it too my friend! (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

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