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Must Contain Minis05 Jun 2019 10:11 p.m. PST

Over on MCM I got to check out and review some minis from a brand new company called Pulp Miniatures. I have several pictures of the minis and a scale comparison image. Come on over and check them out.

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Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 2:54 a.m. PST

Thank you Jacob. Photos are terrific.

Personal logo Dentatus Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian06 Jun 2019 3:49 a.m. PST

Not a Pulp gamer but those work. Nice to see the comparison shots too.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 6:08 a.m. PST

The name rankles me. #TeamMurch

Roderick Robertson Fezian06 Jun 2019 7:51 a.m. PST

Ditto #TeamMurch

Roderick Robertson Fezian06 Jun 2019 7:51 a.m. PST

Ditto #TeamMusrch

Tony S06 Jun 2019 12:41 p.m. PST

Ditto #TeamMurch

altfritz06 Jun 2019 1:07 p.m. PST

Why choose such a similar name?

chuck05 Fezian06 Jun 2019 1:20 p.m. PST

Dont worry, nobody would be able to confuse those for Bob Murch sculpts

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 1:26 p.m. PST

Because that was the name that made the most all encompassing sense for what I was trying to do. Are any of these detractors really dense enough to think I would invest thousands of dollars in a product to detract from someone elses business.

Should I change the name and appear higher in the search rankings than you will you be crying foul then as well?

Because whatever I call the company I will at some time be higher than you in the rankings – I am quite savvy with key word, search engines and the internet.


Look the fact of the mater is that I can call my company whatever I want – it is not the other company -it does not represent itself as the other company, its content and products look nothing like the other company.

So, before I get some legal advice tomorrow regarding a number of things I have seen displayed here and LAF and Face Book disparaging me and me site and product – I would like to know what #TeamMurch is demanding of me – and then I will talk to my counsel, and then I will decide what to do.

If someone from #TeamMurch can contact me directly without hiding on some public forum under pseudonyms we can talk. Why not make it Mr. Murch himself – so I can see what he would like and not the story from some hecklers.

You know my email address I am sure.

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 1:27 p.m. PST

And Bill please do not delete any of this thread as was done on another site – I may need to reference this thread and others.

Thank you.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 1:36 p.m. PST

Frank, I have no horse to back in this race. I can pretty well guarantee that all of the other posters are in fact real people, not trolls. I do agree though that you could have come up with a more original name, one that does not get confused with another company producing figures for the same era.

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 1:40 p.m. PST

Well Nick,

Trolls or not – it could be construed as harassment. This little flame war here is just the tip of the iceberg – the 'not trolls' have caused other difficulties as well

We will see what I find out legally. Now if one of them would do the courtesy of contacting me via email as I asked perhaps we can work this out.

Does that sound fair enough to you Nick, and chuck and all you other wonderful folk?

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 1:42 p.m. PST

Let's see if a conversation happens or are they quite content to just keep heaping the harassment. I think the later is the case – but we will see.

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 3:06 p.m. PST

Thus far, no response….

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 3:29 p.m. PST

Remember, Folks.

Eagle Figures. Eagle Miniatures.

Whose complaining about their names?

I fear some self-righteous folk think they are defending
poor, old helpless Bob Murch, who is probably about as concerned with this as I am whether the Loch Ness Monster is C-of-E or Presbyterian.

TVAG

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 3:38 p.m. PST

Patrick, I don't know what the two Eagles produce, but in this case, both companies are doing figures for the same era.

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 3:51 p.m. PST

Still waiting.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 4:11 p.m. PST

I don't represent Bob Murch – he doesn't know me from Adam. I just think the name is so close as to cause considerable confusion. Bob's Pulp is already well established and has a sterling reputation for quality, originality and good service. It is clearly desirable to be associated with it.

Maybe we should brainstorm a new name for your company? Lotta creative folks here, and through the polling feature it wouldn't be hard to come to a kind of consensus.

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 4:27 p.m. PST

I am waiting for Bob Murch or someone that can be verified as his representive to contact me. I thought that maybe #TeamMurch and you being a member represented him.

I will no longer reply to anyone pretending to represent him as a member of the 'TEAM'.

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 5:10 p.m. PST

I don't understand the apparent animosity towards the name. Did Pulp Alley get flak when they started producing miniatures? Or is there something else going on here?
As for me, I can usually keep the manufacturers that I use straight, but if I can't, that's on me and my poor memory.

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 5:38 p.m. PST

Thank you Paul. At last the voice of reason! The name is the issue, and they have been harrassing me on three seperate venues My sites name is different, the site/store is completely different. products are different. I used my thousands of dollars to create the site, create the figures, etc. But, they act as if I committed a crime.

Dadster Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2019 5:56 p.m. PST

This is the wife of Dadster. Grow up boys. If I wanted to sell flowers, I'd want the word flowers in my company name. Unless, of course, someone owned the word. Get over it. You sound like little boys. Time to put on your big boy pants.

D A THB06 Jun 2019 9:29 p.m. PST

I stubbled across this thread at lunchtime just after PaulCollins had posted and was tempted to say something. Well its after work and I see Dadster is still going at it.

I doubt that this is doing your case much good arguing about something that has happened on another forum that some of us missed, or have no interest in looking for. Its a shame that your dream has turned into an issue over the name.

However, I was thinking of doing an Asian Pulp Gangster range and was wondering if Pulp Miniature Figures would be a suitable name for it? Perhaps not as that would be really confusing.

Bill should delete most of this thread and leave Must Contain Minis post up as it was a fair review that leaves the reader to make up his mind about the figures. I would have liked to heard something about the rules as there are already a few sets out there and this could have been a selling point for you.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Jun 2019 10:50 a.m. PST

"Patrick, I don't know what the two Eagles produce, but in this case, both companies are doing figures for the same era."

Nick, you are perfectly right, but that's not what started this totally unnecessary furor. It was the suggestion by some that the names "Pulp Figures" and "Pulp Miniatures" are somehow deliberately confusing, not that they sell products aimed at the same gaming sub-genre.

Brigade Games, as well as myself and any number of other companies, produce "figures" and "miniatures" for Pulp Gaming, so why would that be the basis of a problem?

And I couldn't agree more with the previous Gentleman's post--this whole thread beyond "Cool Mini's Or Not" review and comments related to it should be "nuked."

NO ONE is being well served by what has been attached to it.

TVAG

Tony S07 Jun 2019 1:03 p.m. PST

Whoa! This thread went south awfully fast. I admit I quickly copied and pasted the ditto #teammurch comment because the bug made a double post, which I thought was amusing, because it had ditto in the text. Yes, little things amuse me.

Is there a connotation to the #team prefix I am not aware of? If, for example, I used #teamMapleleafs in a comment, does it mean that I am claiming to be an official spokesman for the Toronto Maple Leafs? If so, I certainly am not speaking for anyone but myself.

Frank, for what's it worth, I am sorry that your new venture – which must be exciting for you – has suffered such harrassment that you actually thinking, or threatening legal action. I can only assume the other forums you refer to got quite nasty?

That said, feel free to mock my mental faculties – many do, especially those across the table from me – because I read the post title, I thought Bob Murch had indeed brought out a new pack or two. And yes, I also get Eagles companies confused too.

I am condemning your company? No. Do I dislike your figures? No. Pulp Figures may have been the first to notice that the Pulps of the '30s and '40s would be a lot of fun to game, but do I therefore heap dismay on Copplestone, or TVAG or Brigade? Quite the opposite; they've gotten my money on a few occasions!

If someone points out that they get confused by synonyms in a company name, please don't read anything else into it. Again, other forums may have been unutterably rude and insulting, but there's no reason at TMP for anyone else to stoop to that level.

Focus on the fact that you've started something awesome, work hard, produce such great figures that establish your company so firmly that even someone like me will keep the two names seperate!

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Jun 2019 10:35 a.m. PST

Tony S!

Bless you for another blow against being judgmental of a man over a name.

Again, the measure of any manufacturer is his service. If you don't like or have interest in a product, you won't buy it, anyway. And if you do, it's how you're respected and welcomed as a customer that should be the sole basis for an opinion.

And, yes, it seems some people (perhaps unintentionally) presented themselves as somehow speaking for Bob Murch when they had no need or authority to--hardly a favor to one of the best and most respected businesses in the hobby, and indeed even creating a risk of liability, instead.

TVAG
(Who is ever grateful to his customers!)

bjporter08 Jun 2019 2:48 p.m. PST

The legal threats being made here are laughable. If any actual attorney had been consulted regarding trademarks and potential infringement, a decent attorney would have recommended a different name.

It is close enough to cause confusion and it is for the same type of goods, in short you would very likely lose a trademark dispute.

bjporter08 Jun 2019 2:49 p.m. PST

The legal threats being made here are laughable. If any actual attorney had been consulted regarding trademarks and potential infringement, a decent attorney would have recommended a different name.

It is close enough to cause confusion and it is for the same type of goods, in short, you would very likely lose a trademark dispute.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Jun 2019 11:27 a.m. PST

There is NO "trademark" dispute in this matter.

Defamation and slander ARE potential legal questions.

In all my twenty some years on TMP, I have never seen a more shameful and utterly baseless assault on a manufacturer.

There are some here--but far more on Face Book--who should be ashamed, but are, in fact, demonstrably incapable of the emotion.

TVAG

D A THB09 Jun 2019 1:14 p.m. PST

So its not just a case of Dadster putting his big boy pants on and taking criticism on the chin? Just from the comments above its hard to tell the depth of the dispute which is why I suggested deleting the thread.

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