"Warhammer Firefight: Updates?" Topic

Hey, I wondered if anyone has heard anything new about Warhammer Firefight? I know that some people were going to playtest it, how did it go?

What genres do the rules cover, and what rules are they based on (I heard LOTR but that could be a rumor)?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks,

The Trojan Warrior

The Trojan Warrior – The group I'm gaming with is also real interested. I hope we get an update.

Erik

WHERE CAN YOU GET THESE RULES FROM?

They are unreleased at the moment, but they are being made by Warhammer Historical, likely sometime early next year.

Oh, and, is there a reason you write in all caps?

I wouldn't be looking for it any time soon. The last posting was a few months ago when we were promised the basic rules for playtest. 2006 for a release date would be optimistic at this point.

Why not just play WH40K in 40 minutes?

SORRY TROJAN I CAN NOT CHANGE TO LOWER CASE MY KEYBOARD IS KNACKERED
:) NICK

Buy a new keyboard.

Well…

One thing I can say is that it won't be named "Firefight".

"Firefight" is trademark number 78411287 owned by International Fire Resistant Systems, Inc.

FROG OF WAR: Don't worry about it, mate.

delljohnb: It's listed in a GW Calender as Firefight. Sadly, the listing was on Portent before it died, so I can't prove it. Believe it or don't.

I think like many people, we'll all have to wait and see.
I have assurances that the GW WW2 game will be released on schedule for early next year (I'm told February).

40K in 40 minutes? If I wanted to play 40K, I'd play Flames of War. No thanks mate! From what I've seen, Firefight (in it's current form) is a little more 'in depth' than 40K. The bullets don't stop at 24" and fall to the ground and you don't need a 4+ to hit everything. All I can say at this stage is it'll be worth waiting for.

What will it cover? Twentieth century warfare, focussing firstly on the Second World War.

Guy

Wasn't this ruleset going to be based on the WH40K mod Warhammer Panzer Battles? You can get that set from various locations, along with Warhammer WWII (and WWWII Alternative version, with initiative based turns instead of IGOUGO).

Sure, you can get a duplicate set of 40K rules off the internet for free. Use 'em. They didn't work for me.

Now if you want something INNOVATIVE you'll have to wait and see. And I'm not at liberty to say what the FIREFIGHT system is. I've played it's current form and it isn't 40K or LOTR based, which in my book is a good thing.

Guy

This is the first I've heard of this. If it's a Warhammer Historical, it will be the rule book and people use minis from other manufacturers? Or does GW intend to make minis for it as well?

First I've hear dof it as well, and I'm interested!

Point of order!

I see no reason why it could not be called "Warhammer: Firefight" I doubt that the holder of a trademark for fire fighting equipment would be able to claim that it was likely to be mistaken for one of their products and the word "Firefight" is common enough.

Or are they about to sue every fire department in the country to desist from using the term "Firefighters"? ;o)

No GW models, the standard Warhammer Historical approach of using independent manufacturers for the book's eye candy, as I understand it.

Guy

That's a good bit of news that they are doing an independent set of rules and not an adaptation (even though I like GW's other systems). I look forward to Firefight…

Gecoren, are you able to give a few hints about the scale of the rules? Even if you aren't at liberty to describe game mechanics, can you say what size of game it is aimed at? Will it be a skirmish set like Necromunda/LOTOW, Warhammer scale with a few vehicles and several squads and support weapons, or large scale like Epic/Warmaster?

As for using WPB and WWWII, I enjoy both these mods, and used some of their info to write a Necromunda WWII skirmish mod myself.

Can't wait till February!

Well, I'm not a liberty to say exactly. Sorry. The mechanics may be familiar but they are unlike any existing GW game.

I can say the current game is aimed at 28mm skirmish and is quite generic. This is to satisfy those who want a quick and simple game of WW2 and aren't too worried about the history. There will be however more detailed army lists including squad tactics and armoured vehicles.

I'm hoping that a suggestion will be taken onboard to make the game scaleable, so it can be used for skirmish (like 54mm inquisitor), used for Platoon to Company actions in 25-28mm and finally scaled 'up' for those who use 20-15mm or smaller. A tall order I know, but achieveable.

And no disrespect intended to WPB and WWW2. Personally I didn't get on with them but they lit the beacon and fuelled the interest of gamers in a GW set of rules.

Guy

Guy, cheers for the info. I look forward to seeing the rules.

Malc

As far as the title goes, they can call it anything they please, you can't copyright titles.

You trademark titles, which amounts to pretty much the same thing: Use somebody else's and get sued.

If its half as good as Warmaster, it'll be pretty damn sweet.

As long as there's no connections to 40K whatsoever :)

I wonder why I heard it's based on LOTR? That doesn't make much sense, really.

"If I wanted to play 40K, I'd play Flames of War."

You don't know what you are talking about…either that, or you were posting a flame. 40k and FOW aren't even vaguely similar. Have you read the rules for both, or even seen them both played? If so, maybe your comment was tongue-in-cheek. Were you just exagerating? If so, what other things that you have posted on this thread are exagerations?

rolling eyes….

John, I hate when people make that comparison as well! Apart from the use of dice, rulers, and so-called "codexes", there really is very little to compare between 40K and FoW— I see more in common with Warmaster than 40K, and that's a tenuous comparison, too.

>You don't know what you are talking about…either that, or >you were posting a flame.

No, an opinion. I don't flame.

> 40k and FOW aren't even vaguely similar.

I am entitled to an opinion, as are you. The beauty of a democratic system mate.

>Have you read the rules for both, or even seen them both >played?

Yes and Yes.

> If so, maybe your comment was tongue-in-cheek.

No.

> Were you just exagerating?

No.

> If so, what other things that you have posted on this
> thread are exagerations?

:-)

You'll just have to wait and see.

My information on firefight is accurate, my opinion on FOW or 40K is my opinion. Nuff said.

Guy

My club has been using WH40k 4th edition for our World War Two 28mm gaming and we find it quite enjoyable. It is also so simple to pick up outside players in games stores where we hold our events. We've run a 'Pegasus Bridge' scenario 3 times now.

Next month, Sept. 15 (@fanboy in Wilmington, NC), we are holding a series of tank duels using Corgi and Solido/Verem 1:50 scale tanks. If this is as fun as I think it will be, we might run it at southern Front, Raleigh, NC (late Sept.)

AND of COURSE it WILL be IN 1/56th SCALE won't IT Guy…..

Sorry just testing, my kneebord seems to work fine!

No that isn't a typo it's made by Microsoft in Thailand.

Are they done by Bob? wonder if I could get some photos of my gear in If I gave him some free stuff….

Bargery has a Zis in a couple of days if you want to intercept it at the post box. I'm sure he wouldn't miss it.

Cheers Tony(NZ)

>AND of COURSE it WILL be IN 1/56th SCALE won't IT Guy…..

Yes it will Tony. It will also feature a number of 1/56th scale kits credited to the designer Tony Ashcroft if I have my way.

RobB has some 1/48 scale items which I have so far failed to persuade him to rally the one 'true' scale.

Guy

Ha Ha,

Keyboard sorted !!! NO MORE BIG LETTERS….

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Nick