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Markconz27 May 2019 4:34 p.m. PST

Exciting news! These horses alone so very useful.
Austrians and Russians too please! :)

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377CSG Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2019 8:38 p.m. PST

Those look very nice – when can I order?

jay13827 May 2019 9:09 p.m. PST

Fantastic as always

von Winterfeldt27 May 2019 11:01 p.m. PST

only one horse pose?

Markconz28 May 2019 1:00 a.m. PST

Just first render they have said there will be six horse poses in the packs vW.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP28 May 2019 1:00 a.m. PST

First venture into cavalry and, if they are remotely as good as the images here, great! Glad to see full dress…conversion to campaign dead easy. Reverse impossible, esp if they end up covered with a rolled cloak!


The saddle cloth is very nicely done with the eagle and monogram (as for 1e Polish), but also the sheepskin (as for 2e Dutch). Either will need something removed but again much easier than adding. Horses I am not too convinced by, but again we are only seeing one here.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP28 May 2019 2:42 a.m. PST

Not first venture into cav, only first venture into napoleonic cav.
They've done several sets of ancient cav.

Footslogger28 May 2019 2:49 a.m. PST

I was only thinking this morning how much Victrix have improved since their first plastic sets, and lamenting that all the improved ones are Ancients.

This return to Napoleonics is very good news indeed.

"if they are remotely as good as the images here…" yes, their figures do turn out every bit as good as the CAD designs.

Footslogger28 May 2019 2:52 a.m. PST

I was only thinking this morning how much Victrix have improved since their first plastic sets, and lamenting that all the improved ones are Ancients.

This return to Napoleonics is very good news indeed.

Marc at work28 May 2019 4:56 a.m. PST

Could this be the product to finally tempt me back to 28mm?

Really interesting development those lancers could be converted to Austrian and Russian uhlans relatively easily (esp at wargames table viewing distance) and the saddle cloths introduce further options.

Good choice from Victrix. I have a lot of their infantry, just waiting for a reason to use them.

wrgmr128 May 2019 10:54 a.m. PST

Those look very nice. Much better definition of the figure especially the faces.

Lord Hill28 May 2019 12:26 p.m. PST

Oooh! Very nice, they look absolutely fantastic!

French Wargame Holidays28 May 2019 2:33 p.m. PST

Still puzzled they would do a figure that very few sets would sell, one to two per person on average.

Line cavalry for Austrians, Russians or even French or British would sell greater numbers I think than lancers.

My biggest bug with the Ancients cavalry is the horses ears, they face sideways not forward like a horse does when moving.

My two cents

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP28 May 2019 3:41 p.m. PST

Who knows why they do stuff.
Apparently it's extremely making plastic sets, that's why we don't get none English/French cavalry.
Yet we get plastic sets for Roman generals (yeah those are gonna sell more then plastic Russian cavalry) or a package of archers peltasts.

The plastic set economy doesn't make sense.
It's to expensive to make sets that will sell in the many thousands, but making sets you don't really need that many of(seriously how many archers or peltasts does your average hoplite army need?)

People say few play Russians/Austrians next to British or French. I'm sure that's true, but 28mm napoleonic is by far the biggest period in that scale.
Overall mabye acw and ww2 are bigger or as big, but in 28mm. I don't think there is any bigger.
So I say 28mm Russian napoleonics is problebly as large as all 28mm hoplites wargaming. And 28mm hoplites had like 8 plastic sets.

Skeptic28 May 2019 7:46 p.m. PST

New Kingdom Egyptians or Qin/Warring States Chinese would be cool, if somebody were to manufacture them in plastic…

AdmiralHawke30 May 2019 3:45 p.m. PST

I think it's great news that Victrix is returning to Napoleonics. I also think this will prove a popular set, for a couple of reasons:
1) The Polish Imperial Guard Lancers (and to a lesser extent the Dutch 'Red' Guard Lancers) were/are an iconic unit like the French Old Guard Grenadiers, Black Watch Highlanders, the Scots Greys, 95th Rifles, the Saxon Garde du Corps and the Russian Pavlov Grenadiers. Nobody else makes these in 28mm plastic. I think people will buy them just because…
2) Polish lancers is a big gap in 28mm plastics. I agree with Herce Salon de Guerre and Gunfreak that Russian and Austrian line cavalry would sell well too. But nobody else makes Polish-style lancers in 28mm plastic. Warlord offer French line lancers, but they just aren't the same.

If these can be converted relatively easily into Vistula Legion, Austrian, Russian, and perhaps even Prussian uhlans (with head swaps), then they will prove a useful and hence popular set. (I don't know Prussian cavalry uniforms at all.)

While the lancers themselves do indeed look fabulous, sadly I am not entirely convinced by the first horse pose. With all four legs bent, its body appears too close to the ground and I think it would trip over. (If you look at photos of galloping horses, they can have all four legs partially bent, but at that point they are airborne.) I think it needs to be slightly higher off the ground, or be modelled with one or two legs extended. I hope Victrix might change it in time. I dare say I will buy a couple of boxes regardless. :-)

Markconz30 May 2019 6:48 p.m. PST

Apparently, the next set planned based on this one is Guard Chasseurs, which there were rather a lot of so pleased about that. Would replace my existing metal ones which are in drab campaign dress (and not enough of them).

I note Victrix often release a set and then tool aspects of it for something new, rather than completely resculpt. Makes sense as enables significant savings on the tooling.

malcolmmccallum24 Jun 2019 8:10 p.m. PST

Maybe plastic cossacks will come our way one day

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2019 3:05 a.m. PST

I guess the question is always what will sell in very large numbers. If every wargamer adds a plastic Imperial Guard Lancer regt, fine. Makes commercial sense. If only a few but Cossacks, but in huge numbers, equally.

I have always imagined plastics were best for the largest units. So cuirassiers and not mamelukes, British Light Dragoons and not Household Cavalry….pluripotential figures, nothing too specific and self limiting.

Cossacks did come in "hordes" as I recall. Good argument!

AdmiralHawke29 Mar 2020 7:19 a.m. PST

These are now up for pre-order at £26.95 GBP for a dozen. :-)

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP28 Apr 2020 2:08 a.m. PST

These have currently been released albeit without the packaging header cards because of the lock down .Very nice they look to but wrong era for me .

1815Guy28 Apr 2020 5:37 a.m. PST

Try wargaming 1805 or 1813 without Russians! Every Nap gamer needs them. And who doesn't need battle cavalry? The imminent plastic Austrian cav from Perry are inspired. 1 box = 3 different varieties of cavalrymen.

French have the advantage of being the common foe of all the others, but Austria was their longest, most consistent and most numerous foe. The more Megalomanic Wargamer needs tons of 'em!

Leipzig or bust!

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