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Personal logo Buckeye AKA Darryl Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2019 3:29 p.m. PST

First, from what I gather, Weird War can either mean stuff with zombies and aliens added, or to a more "hard" continuation of WWII. I am interested in the latter so apologies must be made in advance if this is not the place for this post. Maybe what I am looking for is more like "what if" as opposed to weird.

I am looking at finding rules and figures that would cover an advanced WWII setting, with the trends in tech being included, such as some of the German advanced jet aircraft, weapons, etc. Figures/vehicles/planes could be 6mm (1/285th) or 15mm (1/108th) in size/scale.

In perusing the various posts, I know this has been touched on in various places, but looking for a one stop post as it were that covers what is available.

Thanks!

khanscom21 May 2019 4:22 p.m. PST

GHQ offers a "Wehrmacht '47" line of minis, and I expect that their rules for WWII or Moderns would have sufficient information to game an extended WWII.

YogiBearMinis21 May 2019 4:47 p.m. PST

Just pick a ruleset that will allow those zombie kamikaze Zero pilots

Landorl21 May 2019 6:09 p.m. PST

Rebel Miniatures makes some 15mm WWII Zombies. You can usually find some Gear Krieg miniatures on Ebay.

Clockwork Goblin used to make some great 15mm Weird War II stuff. Now they are doing them in 28mm, but they say they will release them again in 15mm sometime. They have said that for a while though…

Eureka Miniatures have some great troops that look like sci fi WWII Germans.

Lion in the Stars21 May 2019 7:20 p.m. PST

If you want to do "What If WW2 continued past 1945", that's pretty easy.

In 15mm:
Heer46 makes some of the prototype or limited-production vehicles (E50-75-100 and some other stuff).
So does Forged In Battle (Katzchen 38t APCs, E50s, etc).
Khurasan has a very limited range, just an E25 Hetzer and the US M34 Superheavy tank.

If you want to add some more weird/superscience elements, check out Dream Pod 9's Gearkrieg range. Eureka has some 'SciFi German Stormtroopers', and Rebel Minis has some similar-looking troops.

I have some of those mentioned.
Heer46: E50s, various AA turrets, UHU IR searchlight conversion bits, SdKfz247 command trucks, and US T28/T95 Superheavy tank destroyers.
Forged In Battle: E50s and 38t Katzchen APCs.
GearKrieg: bunch of German and US/UK walkers appropriate for early war per GK timeline, problem is that none of the later or heavy walkers have anything other than art so you'd need to scratchbuild.

I don't have the Khurasan stuff yet, but I will be buying the Hetzers for sure and probably the M34 tank.

mad monkey 122 May 2019 6:00 a.m. PST

I got a lot of the Gearkrieg books. If you want them let me know.

Personal logo Buckeye AKA Darryl Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2020 6:42 a.m. PST

Man, I totally forgot about this post. Mad Monkey, I might be interested. I am really looking for more of if WWII continued on for another year or two, so more along the lines of what Lion mentioned. Not really looking for walkers or zombies.

I own (and acually have painted) the Eureka sci-fi Germans…those may work well as most are carrying basically the StG44 (or something that looks like it). Or, conversely, who is making 15mm Germans mostly equipped with assault weaponry?

Russ Lockwood29 Apr 2020 5:29 p.m. PST

Not posts, but for 'extended WWII' you might consider this book:

German Super Heavy Panzer Projects of World War II Wehrmacht Concepts--Designs

or this one:

German Secret Weapons of the Second World War: The Missiles, Rockets, Weapons and New Technology of the Third Reich. By Ian V. Hogg. Hardback. 223 pages.

(review on HMGS.org is coming soon, but I'll post the preliminary review:


This overview of Third Reich tech, some deployed by war's end and most still in prototype or on drawing board, provides background of the development of particular weapon systems as well as explanations on how they worked in seven sections: V Weapons, Aircraft, Air-launched Weapons, Air Defense Weapons, Artillery, Sea War, and Nuclear and Chemical Warfare.

It's not exactly a scientific treatise, but does offer a layman's guide to chemical and mechanical engineering explanations for most weapons. It includes 36 line drawings and 46 black and white photos to illustrate the weaponry. Much of the information comes from the 13,000 reports created by the Allies' Combined Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee (CIOS) and other wartime weapons reports.

The big-name weapons within are likely known to anyone who has read about WWII -- V-1, V-2, ME-163, ME-262, Dora, Tabun, Panzerschrek, and so on. If you're read a little bit more widely, you'll find the middlin-known systems, like the Fritz X (FX 1400) glide bomb, BA-349 Natter, Biber midget sub, and a variety of rockets, torpedoes and guns.

Yet, some of the weapons were new to me, especially of the artillery variety, including the K-12 gun, Enzien, Reintocher, and the associated ammo. Had it not been for Against the Odds magazine with its recent (issue # 50, Spring 2020) cover story (and card game) about the development of the German atomic bomb, I would have included that as well -- one of the five organizations (p181) responsible for nuclear bomb research was the German Post Office (p183). Whaddaya know…

Enjoyed it.

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