Tango01 | 15 May 2019 8:55 p.m. PST |
"A U.S. aircraft carrier is headed to the Persian Gulf, B-52 bombers have been deployed to the region and the U.S. military has made plans for a possible war with Iran. President Donald Trump has been anti-Iran since he entered the Oval Office, but with some of his more moderate advisers out and more hawkish advisers in, the U.S. has been flirting with the idea of a new military conflict in the Middle East. When National Security Adviser John Bolton announced the new deployments last week, he told reporters that the U.S. had intelligence suggesting Iran or its proxies were preparing an attack on American interests. "The United States is not seeking war with the Iranian regime," Bolton said. "But we are fully prepared to respond to any attack, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces." For its part, Iran has denied the American suggestion and warned that Washington was operating on false intelligence…." Main page link Amicalement Armand
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Choctaw | 16 May 2019 7:16 a.m. PST |
Doom and gloom. Iraq was supposed to bleed the U.S. to its knees and that didn't happen. Good luck, Iran. This time you won't be going up against a few embassy guards. |
Pan Marek | 16 May 2019 8:00 a.m. PST |
We underestimate the Iranians at our peril. They are not Iraq. They are not Arabs. They have a 3000 year history as a coherent nation, with the nationalism that goes with it. Attack them and they will rally around their current government. |
SBminisguy | 16 May 2019 10:04 a.m. PST |
Attack them and they will rally around their current government Maybe, maybe if their government stopped killing and oppressing them long enough. I hope no conflict happens, but if it does the US should not only eliminate the Iranian Navy but also target and destroy as many Revolutionary Guard facilities as possible. They are basically the SS for the Iranian theocracy, nasty s. |
darthfozzywig | 16 May 2019 11:47 a.m. PST |
Iraq was supposed to bleed the U.S. to its knees and that didn't happen. True, it needed Afghanistan's help to do that. A war with Iran would be worse than our previous adventures in the neighborhood. It's larger, with just as unpleasant terrain, and a much larger population (and no, they aren't going to view us as liberators). Iran also possesses the ability to dramatically widen the conflict and disrupt global markets. It's a totally different beast. |
WarpSpeed | 16 May 2019 11:57 a.m. PST |
Iran is one of the cradles of civilization.Islamic Iran may not be the Persian empire but war with them will transform an attacker none the less.Would be Alexanders should be wary. |
PTL1815 | 16 May 2019 2:06 p.m. PST |
I think Iraq did bleed us dry…the war there and in Afghanistan have about bankrupted us and to what end? How many US Service men and women need to be maimed or killed for our version of nation building. what would be our aim in Iran another 20 years of occupation? senseless…are we going to drum up more non-existent weapons of mass destruction or some other perceived imminent threat? |
PTL1815 | 16 May 2019 2:13 p.m. PST |
America] goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. John Q Adams |
Pan Marek | 17 May 2019 8:40 a.m. PST |
SB- Most of the Soviet people rallied behind Stalin. Most defectors were from ethnic minorities. Iran is nowhere near as oppressive as the USSR in 1940. Authoritarian governments have been able to do this in time of war all through history. Indeed, a very good argument can be made that authoritarian governments need war to stay in power (see Orwell). Iraq may be an exception to the rule we should pay attention to. |
Pan Marek | 17 May 2019 8:42 a.m. PST |
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Thresher01 | 17 May 2019 11:20 p.m. PST |
A lot of the younger generation in Iran are tired of their leaders, and would like them removed/replaced. Sadly, no one assisted them last time they rose up in protest. My guess is a lot of them still harbor a strong desire to be free, and might welcome the removal of those in power in Iran currently. |
SBminisguy | 20 May 2019 8:32 a.m. PST |
Yep, I agree, Thresher01. |