"Bavarian Landsknechts " Topic

Foundry Landsknechts are painted in Bavarian colours, with a hand painted cloth standard of Friedrich of Bavaria. This colour scheme really appeals to me, and I plan on doing a pike block in the same vein. Typical of Lansknecht troops, I sold this unit off a while back; I still have the 10mm warmaster unit that matches it.

Foundry Landsknechts are painted in Bavarian colours, with a hand painted cloth standard of Friedrich of Bavaria. This colour scheme really appeals to me, and I plan on doing a pike block in the same vein. Typical of Lansknecht troops, I sold this unit off a while back; I still have the 10mm warmaster unit that matches it.

Foundry Landsknechts are painted in Bavarian colours, with a hand painted cloth standard of Friedrich of Bavaria. This colour scheme really appeals to me, and I plan on doing a pike block in the same vein. Typical of Lansknecht troops, I sold this unit off a while back; I still have the 10mm warmaster unit that matches it.

Uhm, sorry about the multiple posts, guys, my computer glitched and apparently I matrixed :)

That picture is way too small! Do you have a larger one?

- Ix

Ix, sadly I do not. David Love owns these so I may get to get a better pic at some point. :)
Cheers
Ths

I can tap the pic and expand it. Nice work.

Spendid looking unit!
While uniform Landsknechts are atypical, they certainly make for better looking units, and when created by a duke clothing in appropriate colours was not uncommon (actually its value was usually deducted from the payment, though).

On the historical side I fear that Friedrich is a bit early to inspire Landsknechts – you should probably swap their allegiance to Wilhlem IV, who ruled from 1508 to 1550 (or Albrecht just before him). Swapping loyalities should not that much of a problem for the bunch :-)

Puster- Thanks for the feedback. I nicked the standard design out of the Landsknecht Osprey book (plate H, Friederich of Bavaria, 1532), but I will defer to your expertise- and would swap out to Wilhlem… but these being Landsknechts, I've already sold them to a patron. Lol. Next unit!
Cheers!
Ths

Nice unit!

Will have to check the book for the reference (if the image and caption made it into the German translation).

Looking at the blue white checkers the flag probably belongs to a Wittelsbacher, and there is indeed a Friedrich (II) of Palatia that would work (1544-56), though anybody from Palatia (Pfalz) would be proactively unhappy if you called him a Bavarian :-)

Nothing of this is important if you look at a splendid unit on the field, though.

Puster- agreed- when it's on the wargame table, it's all about Hollywood, baby!

Cheers
Ths

OK, found the page. While I actually have no idea wether this banner was used by one of the certainly existing Friedrichs around 1522, the duke of Bavaria was Wilhelm.

That said, this page is really… creative.
First, banner 5 is the Reichsrennfahne, the imperial banner worn by the Reichsmarshal. Not sure wether Frundsberg ever was nominally declared Reichsmarschall, though I doubt it. From function however he certainly could have gotten away with bearing that flag. The flag 10 shown on that page (lower right) that is given as Reichsrennfahne is actually one of the arms that the Frundsbergs used, so it may be that my German version of the book just got the numbers wrong on the banners.

There remains, however, the issue with the "Noch weiter" banner for allegedly Charles V. Given his attitude towards German as a language it is highly doubtful that he would ever use the German motto on a banner. "Plus ultra" I would expect, or "Plus oultre".
I doubt that any unit would bear that banner, as the pillars never show up on Landsknechts banners – they became a Spanish emblem, and while fighting aside under Charles Spaniards and Landsknechts stayed decisively distinct. No Spanish unit would bear the Imperial eagle, no Imperial any Spanish emblem. Their common denominator was the Burgundian, the flamed, cross, inherited by Charles via Maximilian and Mary from the dukes of Burgund. Alas, Warlord Games decided to put up that "Noch Weiter" flag into their sheet with the plastic Landsknechts, and I have to stop myself from ranting whenever I see it depicted on a Landsknechts unit. So – SORRY – for not stopping myself here. Apart from that table I really like the Osprey on the Landsknechts.

Pusater- you are a gentleman and a scholar! I am always in the mind set of learning, so thanks!
I think when it comes to historical accuracy, I more often than not follow the "Hollywood" way of thinking- that is to say what looks best :) as an example on my Triumph of Death "late" Landsknechts.

Cheers!
Ths

That unit above – hideously awesome!

We are gamers, so whatever looks cool on the table certainly trumps boring minis :-)

That awesome unit is right in the spirit of the era. Reminds me of quite a couple of contemporary depictions showing the lifestyle of Landsknechts. But it up as vanguard!

BTW: BVB fans, too!!