Editor in Chief Bill | 02 May 2019 8:56 p.m. PST |
Which of these ancient Chinese armies is your favorite? Hsia and Shang Chinese Army 2000 – 1300 BC Western Chou & 'Spring & Autumn' Chinese 1100 – 480 BC Warring States & Ch'in Chinese 480 – 202 BC Ch'iang & Ti Chinese 315 BC – 550 AD Tien & K'un-Ming Chinese 295 BC – 45 AD Han Chinese 202 BC – 189 AD Chinese Northern & Southern Dynasties 317 – 589 AD Sui and Early T'ang Chinese 581 – 755 AD Late T'ang & Five Dynasties Chinese 755 – 979 AD Sung Chinese 960 – 1279 AD Yuan Chinese 1260 – 1368 AD Ming Chinese 1350 – 1598 AD |
Perris0707 | 02 May 2019 10:18 p.m. PST |
Yuan. Mongols and Chinese. Win win. |
evilgong | 02 May 2019 10:39 p.m. PST |
Chinese Northern & Southern Dynasties 317 – 589 AD |
goragrad | 02 May 2019 11:10 p.m. PST |
No Three Kingdoms 220–280 AD??? Although I do like the Early T'ang as well. Of course after watching the series 'King's War' I also was impressed with General Han Xin who commanded during the Han Wu Contention at the end of the Ch'in and leading to the Han. |
GurKhan | 03 May 2019 1:05 a.m. PST |
The Nanzhao and Dali kingdoms of Yunnan, for me – all that pretty red lacquered armour. link
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Koxinga | 03 May 2019 1:10 a.m. PST |
Ming and Sung All the warmachines and for the ming, compatible with renaissance armies |
langobard | 03 May 2019 1:11 a.m. PST |
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Dexter Ward | 03 May 2019 2:37 a.m. PST |
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McWong73 | 03 May 2019 2:42 a.m. PST |
Three Kingdoms, but not on the list. |
FusilierDan | 03 May 2019 3:48 a.m. PST |
Warring States & Ch'in Chinese 480 – 202 BC |
Aurochs | 03 May 2019 4:44 a.m. PST |
I like the Shang army. They are so mysterious. But its difficult to find an enemy for them. |
Come In Nighthawk | 03 May 2019 5:32 a.m. PST |
Shang! Have done some reading on the Shintashta culture and other Eurasian pastorialist societies, including discussions on how the chariot came to China. So, am slowly assembling a list of reasonable figures to acquire to build such a "Northern Nomad" army to fight the Shang. Then there is the one tantalizing image in the Osprey book of what a skins-clad Asian barbarian ought to look like, and am looking for figures that could serve there, too… |
skipper John | 03 May 2019 5:43 a.m. PST |
The Ming! Because they fought the Samurai… and what fun that is!! |
Memento Mori | 03 May 2019 9:05 a.m. PST |
Yuan Mongols plus some solid infantry and firearms – what not to like ? |
Uesugi Kenshin | 03 May 2019 9:10 a.m. PST |
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miniMo | 03 May 2019 9:36 a.m. PST |
Sui & Early Tang for Princess Pingyang. Ming for the artillery. |
Rudysnelson | 04 May 2019 9:40 a.m. PST |
Han in my Wrg playing days of the 1970s and 1980s. Yuan are good but I am more of a Korean Three Kingdoms guy myself. |
Skeptic | 04 May 2019 12:30 p.m. PST |
@Come In Nighthawk: That is a fascinating time. Have you seen Sawyer's book on the Shang? Reconstructing what the Qiang and other people wore could be a challenge, as if reconstructing the appearance of Shang troops wasn't already enough of a challenge! |
Skeptic | 04 May 2019 4:32 p.m. PST |
Xia and Shang Chinese Army 2000 – 1300 BC Western Zhou & 'Spring & Autumn' Chinese 1100 – 480 BC Warring States & Qin Chinese 480 – 202 BC The Nanyue Kingdom of "Early Vietnamese" Dian & Kunming Chinese 295 BC – 45 AD Han Chinese 202 BC – 189 AD Nanzhao and Dali |
mghFond | 04 May 2019 9:41 p.m. PST |
Sung Chinese. I use them against Mongols. It normally does not go well for the Chinese but it's a fun challenge to play the Sung. |
Come In Nighthawk | 06 May 2019 8:26 p.m. PST |
@ Skeptic. I assume you mean Ralph Sawyer's Ancient Chinese Warfare? |
Mike O | 07 May 2019 7:13 a.m. PST |
Song/Sung followed by Yuan although I'd call those medieval rather than ancient. |
Skeptic | 07 May 2019 1:33 p.m. PST |
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Come In Nighthawk | 07 May 2019 6:15 p.m. PST |
Have it. Have not read it cover to cover. Hoping to meet Sawyer at a conference this summer and have a chat… |
Skeptic | 07 May 2019 7:38 p.m. PST |
I have just acquired a copy of his book on the Chou/Zhou Dynasty although I may seek a replacement from Amazon (flimsy envelopes don't protect softcover books very well…). At a conference? That sounds interesting! May I ask what the conference will be about, or which conference it will be? |
Skeptic | 11 May 2019 12:02 p.m. PST |
And Khurasan have just released a very pertinent range: link |
Skeptic | 19 May 2019 6:51 a.m. PST |
@Come In Nighthawk Sawyer's book on the Zhou (Chou) mentions some inter-state connections between the Zhou and the more nomadic peoples. So, some of Khurasan's new range could likely also fit in with a Zhou army. |
cuachicwarrior | 23 May 2019 7:24 a.m. PST |
Hsia Hsia,Sung and Jin (jurchen) to fight against 1200's mongols |
catavar | 03 Jun 2019 12:40 p.m. PST |
Early Tang definitely; probably followed by Sung (even tho I like pronouncing Sui more… Swaaay). While not listed I think Nan-Chao are cool too. |
Erzherzog Johann | 05 Jun 2019 9:04 p.m. PST |
Spring and Autumn. How can you not love an army with a name like that? Plus all those pretty chariots . . . I don't have one; I've been waiting for Khurasan's long promised range. Now that it's here, and looks really good, that excuse has evaporated. So it's just the finances and the backlog of painting that are holding me back. Excuses excuses . . . I also like the idea of the Sui Dynasty million man army but that will probably never happen. |