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ecaminis Supporting Member of TMP25 Apr 2019 5:26 p.m. PST

The books I have say the shoulder straps were in provincial colors. But I can't find any reference to which batteries were in which province. All I see are numbers. Does anyone know where to find this information?

Desert Rat25 Apr 2019 7:17 p.m. PST

Not sure where I got the information but the different batteries belonged to different brigades "representing" provinces. The artillery provincial strap colours differed from the infantry provincial facing colours.

My information is incomplete as it doesn't have the 6pdr foot batteries although one could assume that they'd be the same for the horse batteries.

Prussian brigade: White straps. 1, 2, 3 6pdr horse batteries; 1, 4 12pdr batteries

Silesian brigade: Red straps. 7-12 6pdr horse batteries; 3 12pdr battery; 1 7pdr howitzer battery

Brandenburg brigade: Yellow straps. 4, 5, 6, 11 6pdr horse batteries; 2, 5, 6 12pdr batteries.

Hope that helps a bit.

wrgmr125 Apr 2019 10:22 p.m. PST

According to the Mont St. Jean website they are all red in 1815. Which is how I painted all of mine.
Which year are you looking at?

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roundie25 Apr 2019 11:45 p.m. PST

holy Sh*t that's a lot of guns wrgmr1

ecaminis Supporting Member of TMP26 Apr 2019 4:54 a.m. PST

I am building for 1813-1815. Following the Waterloo OB first then adding what was at Leipzig. I will paint as 18123-14 and say they didn't have time to update their uniforms.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP26 Apr 2019 9:22 a.m. PST

From David Nash's The Prussian Army: 1808-1815:

By August 1813, the following units were on strength of the field army.

(1st) Prussian Artillery Brigade: 6-lb foot batteries 1, 2, 3, 19, 20, 22, 23, 24; 6-lb horse batteries 1, 2, 3; 3-lb foot battery 1; 12-lb foot batteries 1, 4.

(2nd) Silesian Artillery Brigade: 6-lb foot batteries 7, 11, 12, 13, 15, 21, 28, 29; 6-lb horse batteries 7, 8, 9, 10, 12; 12-lb foot battery 3; 7-lb howitzer battery 1.

(3rd) Brandenburg Artillery Brigade: 6-lb foot batteries 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, 16, 17, 18, 25, 26, 27, 30; 6-lb horse batteries 4, 5, 6, 11; 12-lb foot batteries 2, 5, 6.

Guard Artillery: 6-lb foot battery 4 and 6-lb horse battery 4.

Of the above, the following were Landwehr batteries: 6-lb foot batteries 13, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27 and 6-lb horse battery 12.

Shoulder straps until 1814 were white for Prussian Brigade, scarlet for Brandenburg Brigade, and yellow for Silesian Brigade. In 1814, all were changed to scarlet.

There was also a Handwerker Company (13th) assigned to each brigade whose task was to repair and maintain the various pieces of artillery.

Hope this helps,

Jim

14Bore26 Apr 2019 11:20 a.m. PST

Learned after it was a project causing another to disregard the Landwehr labels, the batteries were all line units.

wrgmr126 Apr 2019 1:02 p.m. PST

roundie, painted as part of our groups Waterloo and Ligny games in 2015. Over 2000 Calpe figures.

Oliver Schmidt30 Apr 2019 11:01 a.m. PST

ColCampbell has it right.

However, as far as I know, red shoulder straps (with the number of the brigade on them) were introduced as late as with the reorganisation of 1816, when nine artillery brigades were formed.

The colour of the shoulder straps reflected the anciennity of the artillery brigade (i.e. artillery regiment). That the yellow shoulder straps for the Silesian artillery brigade (ranking as the third one) happened to be of the Silesian provincial colour, was pure coincidence.

On Landwehr artillery:

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