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pushing tin14 Apr 2019 1:08 p.m. PST
Lion in the Stars14 Apr 2019 2:30 p.m. PST

Very nice!


I've played the FoW and Battlegroup 'hit-the-beach' scenarios, and the BG scenario is a lot better. The FoW scenario has you roll a die for each landing craft (and DD), on a 5+ it doesn't arrive that turn. BG rules have the landing craft roll dice for movement and get that much closer to the beach. Admittedly, the BG rules need a lot more table devoted to the water than FoW does.

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP14 Apr 2019 3:15 p.m. PST

very nice. Thanks for posting.

14Bore14 Apr 2019 3:15 p.m. PST

I here Beethoven's fifth in the background

rob polymathsw Supporting Member of TMP15 Apr 2019 5:59 a.m. PST

Amazing stuff! Great attention to detail too!

Legion 415 Apr 2019 7:00 a.m. PST

WOW !!!!! thumbs up gold star Will try similar on some of my bunkers ! Thanks for the inspiration !

deephorse15 Apr 2019 8:29 a.m. PST

Some nice work there. Do the Heroics & Ross AVRE facine carriers come with the facine fixed in place? I ask because I do believe that they are the wrong way round, i.e. the facine should be at the front of the tank. That said I see that the H&R website illustrates them backwards too!

Dynaman878915 Apr 2019 9:40 a.m. PST

For the BG rules – you could just put a marker next to each landing craft to show how far "out" it was. That way there is no need for more water, just lower the number and when it is close enough put it on the board.

Mark 115 Apr 2019 10:39 a.m. PST

Really impressive! Quite a collection, and quite well finished.

I am intrigued by a couple of the items. There may be modelling / kit-bashing techniques I can learn and emulate.

1) Cammo netting. The first two pics show gun emplacements with and without netting covers. I presume that the nettings are scratch-built? Any details on how you constructed them will help guide those who wish to copy-cat (like ME). I could see using a similar approach not only for AT gun emplacements but almost any artillery position.

2) Tobruks with turrets. Do I correctly infer that you have taken surplus French tank turrets and applied them to the MG pits on the purchased Tobruks? Hmmmm. I have surplus French tank turrets in my spare parts bin, and have been considering how I might scratch-built bunker platforms for them. Simply dropping them onto finished Tobruk MG pits, now that's a new idea for me. Quite like it.

Thanks for posting!

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

pushing tin15 Apr 2019 1:16 p.m. PST

Hi,

to answer your various questions…

Churchill AVREs and fascines, yes you are correct they were usually carried on the front, but I also went by the one on the Heroics and Ros website lol. It comes as a separate piece with what I initially took to be the engine exhaust moulded on, but on reflection is probably meant to be the ramp the fascine was often fixed on to enable it to roll off the tank easily. However, apparently they were sometimes fixed to the rear, but this was frowned upon as it was a bit of a fire hazard over the engine compartment.

The cammo netting over the gun emplacements is some net curtain fixed over a frame made out of some wire mesh, sprayed green and with some blobs of basing material on it.

The tobruks with turrets are from Masters of Military, but good idea about using spare turrets, I hadn't thought of that!

Thanks

deephorse16 Apr 2019 4:36 a.m. PST

So I went looking for a photo of a facine being carried on the rear of a Churchill and found ths. It's on fire too, so that's a bonus. But it appears to be a normal gun tank Churchill, so what's the explanation for this? Is it a trial to see if the concept worked, and before they realised that it was a bad idea to put a huge bundle of firewood over the engine deck?

Legion 416 Apr 2019 8:13 a.m. PST

Of course if the fascine is on the rear, you'd just have to back up next to the trench, etc., to deploy it.

donlowry16 Apr 2019 8:40 a.m. PST

I use cheese cloth as cammo netting. But that's for 20mm scale.

If they put the fascines on the front of the tank, how did the driver (or even the commander) see where they were going?

deephorse16 Apr 2019 10:32 a.m. PST

Of course if the fascine is on the rear, you'd just have to back up next to the trench, etc., to deploy it.

Obviously you would, if the fascine was on the rear. But how many photos of a fascine carried on the rear can you find vs ones with it carried on the front?

deephorse16 Apr 2019 10:40 a.m. PST

If they put the fascines on the front of the tank, how did the driver (or even the commander) see where they were going?

This is how.

pushing tin16 Apr 2019 12:37 p.m. PST

more on fascines and AVREs

YouTube link

deephorse17 Apr 2019 3:13 a.m. PST

‘Nuff said. Thanks.

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