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mghFond08 Apr 2019 1:37 p.m. PST

I am working on painting up French for the 1883-85 fighting in the Tonkin and am wondering a couple things about their mountain artillery.

From googling about I think the barrels were steel not bronze but not sure if they painted them or not? Maybe black?
Also the gun carriage – what color did they paint those?

Appreciate any help but French colonial gamers.

epturner Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2019 1:41 p.m. PST

I have always understood the gun carriage to be a sort of bronze green/olive drab green.

I could be wrong on this.

My French is Quebecois and, sadly, hardly ever used.


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Eric

Fanch du Leon08 Apr 2019 2:27 p.m. PST
Personal logo Grelber Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2019 2:31 p.m. PST

Looking at my notes and pictures, I'm pretty sure the barrel is steel. Whether it's painted or bare steel, I'm not sure: my pictures could be interpreted either way: bare steel or faded black paint. One is on display in southern California (yes, at Disneyland!), and the whole thing is dark olive

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.I've no idea how historical that is. For what it's worth, I painted my carriages light gray and the barrels steel colored, but that was years ago, and I don't remember what sources, if any, I might have used.

Grelber

Personal logo Grelber Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2019 2:42 p.m. PST

Great page, Fanch du Leon!

Grelber

oldjarhead08 Apr 2019 6:54 p.m. PST

I don't remember the source, but I was told the carriage was bottle green with black metal fittings (including the barrel)

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP09 Apr 2019 9:30 a.m. PST

AFAIK could be either green as the others from the De Bange (just type système De Bange on google pictures) or grey.
Grey might make sense in some mountain areas to go with the surrounding rocks etc.
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The one in Draguignan which I saw recently has lost most of its original colour but seems to have been greenish.

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but this gray one seemed to have been used in WW1 so could have had a repainting to fit regulations.
the barrels loo

Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP09 Apr 2019 10:32 a.m. PST

I'm pretty sure the Disneyland gun is a Hotchkiss, not a DeBange.

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP09 Apr 2019 10:49 a.m. PST

Yes it is.

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