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MiniPigs30 Mar 2019 7:27 p.m. PST

Painting shade/color for these 1840s/1850s French overcoats.



They seem to be lighter than the ones that they wore later. Is it a grey or a sort of azure or sky blue? Or, were they navy blue and just faded by the time those sketches were made?

Is there a good authority for Italian Independence Wars and Crimean French uniforms?

de Ligne31 Mar 2019 2:00 a.m. PST

I believe it is a colour called Turqui Blue. It has a lot of dark grey in it.

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2019 3:07 p.m. PST

French Army overcoats from the Second Empire – 1914 were dyed "blued-iron grey." I wouldn't be too worried about the exact shade.
Get your hands on the book "World War 1 Infantry in Colour Photographs by Laurent Mirouze. There is a photo of a French Infantryman in 1914 wearing the standard 1877 coat, and another interesting picture of a Chasseur Alpins wearing blued-iron grey tunic and pantalons with the tunic lighter and grayer than the trousers.

MiniPigs31 Mar 2019 3:23 p.m. PST

That's rather interesting info and thank you. But what paint on the market would approximate the color?

Lion in the Stars31 Mar 2019 9:10 p.m. PST

I'd try Vallejo Model Color Luftwaffe Uniform, MiniPigs. Might be a bit too blue/not gray enough, but that's easy to adjust with black or white paint.

Chad4702 Apr 2019 4:05 a.m. PST

‘French Infantry of the Crimean War' by Anthony L Dawson is probably as good a source as any.

MiniPigs02 Apr 2019 5:52 p.m. PST

Was the French overcoat always the same shade of grey-blue or did it become more blue from the Crimea onward?

de Ligne03 Apr 2019 1:10 a.m. PST

I misspoke earlier. The colour is TURQUIN BLUE. A search will reveal this colour that seems to only exist in the French colour palette.
This colour was only used in the early to mid part of the century and, I think, by the Crimean war (and afterwards) it had become a darker blue that we are more familiar with.

Chad4704 Apr 2019 5:46 a.m. PST

Dawson's book gives Iron-Grey

Chad4704 Apr 2019 5:51 a.m. PST

You could also try the Crimean War Research Society website

Royal Marine04 Apr 2019 2:25 p.m. PST

Once these coats had been in the sun, rain and wind the exact shade of blue becomes almost irrelevant; and this is true for any army from 3000BC to today. I've seen my own uniform change colour during intense periods.

Karl Grover09 Apr 2019 1:19 p.m. PST

For 15mm scale I use Vallejo Royal Blue, which when weathered appears about the right shade at that scale.

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