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Double G Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2019 6:51 p.m. PST

I'm in the planning stages of a Gravelotte St. Privat layout and am looking for a detailed scenario map showing building and troop placement as well as a road network, any assistance would be appreciated, TIA

FoxtrotPapaRomeo28 Mar 2019 7:12 p.m. PST

Osprey Campaign 21 deals with the Gravelotte St Privat and the lead in battles. Nice two page overview of the battleground including road network and villages. Not sure if this is detailed enough for you. Here is the front cover


nsolomon9928 Mar 2019 7:55 p.m. PST

+1 for using the Osprey Campaign volume. Excellent source for a scenario.

Double G Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2019 8:05 p.m. PST

Thanks for the tips, I tracked this one down, I was told it's out of print, it's on the way to me………….thanks again……….

AussieAndy28 Mar 2019 8:43 p.m. PST

In the Bibliography to his 1870 rules book, Bruce Weigle is absolutely scathing about that book, including the maps. Mr Weigle is pretty highly respected in this field, so I would give a fair bit of credit to his views. 1870 contains a scenario for the battle, including a fairly detailed map. If you don't have 1870 and Mr Weigle's other volumes, I recommend that you get them. They are great resources, even if, like me, you don't much like his rules.

Lascaris28 Mar 2019 9:13 p.m. PST

I'd also suggest picking up 1870 as a reference. I actually like the rules, if I have an extended time to play and can keep a game set up for a while, but the real value is in the OOB's and scenarios which are both fabulous.

If you ever make it to Historicon, Cold Wars, etc then Bruce W. is usually putting on a game. It's definitely worth checking out just to see his terrain if for no other reason.

Martin Rapier28 Mar 2019 11:54 p.m. PST

As noted, there is a good scenario in 1870. Iirc there is also one in Bloody Big Battles.

ChrisBBB2 Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2019 3:05 a.m. PST

Martin, thanks for the kind mention of BBB.

Double G, you can find the BBB map for Gravelotte in this Flickr album, along with 11 others for the major battles of the FPW:

Hope this helps, and good luck with your project.


Bloody Big BATTLES!

BillyNM29 Mar 2019 7:20 a.m. PST

A quick search will give many other options such as the link below which nicely shows the relationship with Mars-la-Tour.


BillyNM29 Mar 2019 9:42 a.m. PST

Gosh! I thought I was posting a link but seem to have posted an image… Can anyone explain what happened as I've wanted to paste images before (usually from my PC)?

Double G Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2019 1:15 p.m. PST

Thanks everyone for the helpful hints; I have 1870 and 1871, didn't know Bruce ran games at HMGS conventions, would love to see one in person, will scan the Historicon PEL once it comes out……….

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