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JAFD2625 Mar 2019 1:59 p.m. PST

Thinking of scratch building a few models. Want to check on the scale (scales?) Used before I start cutting wood. 1/300 or 1/350 or ?

Thanks for your help.

Wildman25 Mar 2019 2:05 p.m. PST

Warlord's Motorboat Pens has 1/300 listed on the pictures.

Joe Legan25 Mar 2019 2:13 p.m. PST

For models below destroyer size they are using 1/300. For dds and larger 1/350
Should work fine together

David Manley25 Mar 2019 4:23 p.m. PST

1/300, 1/350 and points in between. The M35 works out at about 1/320

gamershs25 Mar 2019 5:57 p.m. PST

The reason that 1/300 and 1/350 scales are compatible is that at that small of a scale it is almost impossible to see the variance. A 6 ft high man is 6mm in 1/300 scale and 5.2mm in 1/350 scale. While playing a game I have seen nobody running around with a micrometer checking scales. Your 300 ft. long destroyer would be 12 inches in 1/300 scale and 10.25 inches in 1/350 scale. Compared to the actual range scale of the guns the destroyer should be less then 1 inch long.

Lion in the Stars26 Mar 2019 1:09 a.m. PST

1/300 does make the various patrol boats a decent length, though. An Elco 80ft is a little over 3" long.

1/600 might be a better size, and certainly PT Dockyard tends to make 1/600 or 1/700 for his small craft. I know I prefer 1/600 scale for aircraft models those kinds of lengths!

gamershs26 Mar 2019 2:02 a.m. PST

The problem with 1/600 scale is the scale is extremely limited when it comes to aircraft and terrain selection.

I have over 1400 painted 1/300 scale aircraft (with about 400 aircraft waiting to be painted) this scale offers a much larger selection. There are many companies that make aircraft in this scale so you are not dependent on one or two companies.

Since 1/300 scale is one of the primary ground scales (with 6mm, 15mm or 25mm being the older scales and 2mm, 10mm or 20mm being the newer scales) there are many buildings and terrain features in this scale that can be used for port or fishing villages. This means a commando raid could be tied into a naval game for example with to scale soldiers and to scale terrain.

If you are going to argue for 1/600 or 1/700 scale (due to length) for a naval game why don't you argue for 1/1200 or 1/2400 scale. This would allow for a much greater selection of ships and would allow for better use of the game table for a naval game. I have most of the ships in the 1/300 scale listed (no Chinese Junks) in 1/2400 scale.

tomrommel126 Mar 2019 2:46 a.m. PST

If scratch building I myself use the 1/300 scale. Have a look here : link

Joe Legan26 Mar 2019 7:12 a.m. PST

Lion,

I gamed coastal actions in 1/600 and plan to keep my DDs and CLs to do those types of battles. After trying out the 1/300 scale it actually works on my table top and there is no argueing the models look very nice. And as Gamer says I already have plenty of aircraft and fortifications should be easy to acquire. I too thought it might be too big but it actually works. The only drawback I see for truely small coastal actions is the price.


Joe

john snelling26 Mar 2019 11:13 a.m. PST

Do you think 1/400 for DE/DD size ships is acceptable for the game?

David Manley26 Mar 2019 1:09 p.m. PST

If anyone is worried about aircraft availability in 1/600 just lol at the range from Tumbling Dice, just about everything there you'd ever need. And in 30 years of coastal gaming I've never had any problems getting or making terrain. I do like Warlord's 1/300 models and I have quite a few but I still find 1:600a much better scale for CF gaming

RudyNelson27 Mar 2019 5:52 p.m. PST

Coastal Command can be used with any scale vessels. The later revised rules for use with hex maps as low no as they can fit in the hex.

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