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Aotrs Commander20 Mar 2019 8:34 a.m. PST

Aotrs Shipyards is a webstore on, a 3D print house which had production and shipping facilities located in the USA and the Netherlands. Aotrs Shipyards also takes direct printing commissions.

This time, we have the MILAN version of the Iltis that I didn't have chance to do last time, and (as Thresher01 suggested it!) The DWK Munga, the Iltis' predecessor, both at 144th. (Both come in a sprue of four.)

Iltis with MILAN


Aotrs Shipyards direct price: £3.25 GBP (beta price for a single model)

DWK Munga


Aotrs Shipyards direct price: £3.25 GBP (beta price for a single model)

Photos of Replicator 2 variant.

The Kozak 2M.1 is now in the backlog pipeline. The Spartan is going to be delayed for a bit, until I can work out whether, according to my initial examinations, it is a completely different vehicle in practise to the Scorpion.

(According to what I've found on the dimensions, not only is it longer, but also wider and taller… And either the technical drawings I used for the Scorpion/Scimitar are wrong, or the ones for the Spartan I'm looking at are wrong, or I have completely got the size wrong or the wheels are not the same size. Investigation is pending, but if anyone has any insight…!)

So the next thing I will likely look at is the PT-76.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Mar 2019 6:27 p.m. PST

Good to see the Munga.

That'll be more appropriate for the era of the West German Army I want to game with.

Any chance of them being cheaper in a twin-pack, with Shapeways' pricing structure?

I see some manufacturers sell multiple items in a set, since that used to apply to some products.

Aotrs Commander21 Mar 2019 1:34 p.m. PST


Do you mean at Shapeways or from me directly?

At Shapeways they're already in a sprue of four.

From me directly, we're still sorting out things and this goes double for small stuff (i.e. stuff that individually takes less than an hour to print). Some stuff we've found we can print multiples of at once (which reduces the manpower cost, as in having to stop and start and clear the build plate frequently, which is our equivilent of Shapeway's part cost) and some don't (too much stringing). The Iltis et al, because of the figures and the more complex shape, appear to be leaning towards the "don't" side.

But if you (or someone) want more than one, I can do you a deal (especially if your order is for about ten or more models or whatever stripe, as that gives me the room to have an experiment while sorting the order). (This is why the direct Shipyards price is labelled "beta for a single model!") You can get hold of me (so I can give you my email address) through the current usual channels (either at Shapeways or Wargames Vault via PM – though if you see Aotrs Commander on any other forums it's extraordinarily unlilkely to not be me!

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2019 9:56 p.m. PST

Ah, sorry, forgot you were printing them yourself.

Will be in contact as funds permit.

Don't need 10, but could probably use 2 – 4 for various West German units. Need to review the TO&Es again.

Jeffers Supporting Member of TMP22 Mar 2019 4:07 a.m. PST

Would be nice to see a Munga in 1/76 or 1/72.

Aotrs Commander22 Mar 2019 5:27 a.m. PST


I would say, then, unless there's other stuff you want from me at the same time, if you only want four Mungas, you're probably better off getting them from Shapeways in terms of price.

(I have started spruing small stuff up now, since Shapeways has a minimum $5 USD model cost now.)


It could be done – if there as sufficient interest, since scaling up takes time such that it requires either a commission or someone wanting enough that it pays for the time (which means more than one or two models).

But it would mean having to deal with my extremely crude figures at sizes where you can tell. (The figures for moderns are even cruder than the ones I use for sci-fi, where at least they can have helmets and body armour and stuff to legitimately hide the primitiveness!)

Jeffers Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2019 1:04 p.m. PST

I'd only need 2 or 3 so it wouldn't be worthwhile for me alone. Mind you, its taken me years of nagging online for an AMXVci and BPM finally made one, so there must be more oddballs like me out there…. 😄

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2019 8:22 p.m. PST

A $5 USD minimum???


Thanks for the info.

I'll be in contact when funds permit.

Still coveting the little Spz Kurz with 20mm cannon. Need a bunch of those – a full company.

Aotrs Commander25 Mar 2019 4:25 p.m. PST

$5 USD minimum, yeah. There has been a per part cost for some time, which is why I started spruign stuff together for some time, but this is new (basically, I think, because they don't want the hassle of dealing with small parts). So, spruing four together isn't a huge problem (ironically, it's probbaly made them cheaper than individually where you'd still have had a $1.50 USD part cost anyway, so they'd have been probably a little under half that each under the old system, instead of a bit under $7 USD for four.

The biggest hit is to my starships, a large amount for which are small models, often sprued into fours anyway and which are still below this new minimum. At some point, I'll have to address that problem, but one lot of faffing about at once…! (And my biggest starship chap started ording from me direct anyway!)

As I say, if you can find me a technical drawing for the Kurz, I can do it happily, but without that, I can't even get started.

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