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Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2019 7:07 p.m. PST

Well this I could watch.

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Star Trek Discovery – not a chance.

FoxtrotPapaRomeo08 Mar 2019 7:22 p.m. PST

Actaually I enjoy both. And yes, from what I have seen of the Orville, it is a little underrated.

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2019 7:34 p.m. PST

The second season got off to a bad start. It was more like Melrose Space with some really bad story lines.

That said, the last three episodes have been great.

Zephyr108 Mar 2019 9:42 p.m. PST

Alas, I missed the last episode because my VCR was set to the wrong channel… :-(

And yes, hopefully they are done with "The Love Boat in Spaaaace" for a while… ;-)

Dentatus Fezian08 Mar 2019 10:13 p.m. PST

Nah… not my cuppa.

I'll watch BSG (reboot) again.

RudyNelson08 Mar 2019 10:33 p.m. PST

I follow Orville since it is on regular TV. I do not do allaccess apps.

bsrlee08 Mar 2019 10:53 p.m. PST

Orville is better Classic Trek than Discovery even tries to be, and most of the problem for me is that Discovery looks and feels post-Next Generation and not pre-TOS.

Spooner609 Mar 2019 12:36 a.m. PST

I love Orville, it helps the wife loves the show as well.


Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2019 6:58 a.m. PST

Low bar there, Mithmee.

Dynaman878909 Mar 2019 7:51 a.m. PST

I tried watching the first episode of The Orville and the lame(posterior) "humor" forced me to turn it off after a few minutes. People swear it gets better but I'm not inclined to give it a second chance.

skipper John Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2019 8:23 a.m. PST


Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2019 8:27 a.m. PST

@skipper John: Do you mean the thread claim, or STD? ‘Cause if you mean the latter, I'll agree. evil grin

Legion 409 Mar 2019 8:36 a.m. PST

It is entertaining and very much a "clone" of TNG …

Roderick Robertson Fezian09 Mar 2019 9:10 a.m. PST

Sorry, when I see "STD" all I can think of is "Sexually Transmitted Disease".

No AllAccess, so I've never seen Discovery. I do like the Orville, though.

skipper John Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2019 10:16 a.m. PST

I'm afraid I meant the thread claim. I like Discovery though I've not seen the new season yet. I watched a few of the first season Orville but, it just never got a hold on me.

Paint it Pink09 Mar 2019 10:40 a.m. PST

I liked both, but for different reasons.

The Orville is sort of classic Trek via way of Next Gen.

Discovery season one had a great story arc, very much Babylon 5.

Personal logo svsavory Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2019 1:36 p.m. PST

My wife and I enjoy The Orville. Neither of us were impressed by the premier of STD, and the fact they put it behind a pay wall means we couldn't watch it even if we wanted to.

D A THB09 Mar 2019 3:36 p.m. PST

I really like STD for the most part. I enjoyed the first Season of the Orville as well.

This latest season seems a bit off and really don't care if I miss half an episode or miss it at all. It is now on very late so I would have made an effort to record it if I still cared about it.

Personal logo 28mm Fanatik Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2019 3:57 p.m. PST

'The Orville' is the TNG-spoof from Seth MacFarlane, who stars as its captain. He's the guy behind 'The Family Guy,' 'Ted' and 'Ted 2,' and 'A Million Ways to Die in the West.' If you're familiar with his brand of humor, you will know that it's low-brow, crass and often in bad taste. So 'The Orville' may not be your cup of tea.

Having said that, I thought the last couple of episodes were pretty good with the SPOILERS AHEAD! war against the Kaylons and the treaty with the Krill.

It's alright, but I try not to compare it with STD because they're different animals.

JMcCarroll09 Mar 2019 4:37 p.m. PST

Same boat as svsavory & Spooner6.

Earl of the North09 Mar 2019 5:06 p.m. PST

I've actually watched Discovery since I now have the ability to watch it with out paying extra especially to see it and its okay, enjoyable enough that I'm watching the second series as it comes out instead of waiting to binge watch the entire series.

The main problem with Star Trek for me is to many re-boots, just build on the existing lore, dagnabbit.

Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP10 Mar 2019 12:53 a.m. PST

The first season of Discovery was "But, I don't want to be a Star Trek show !!!"

The Orville was "We aren't a Star Trek show, but try to stop us making homages in between the dumb fart jokes."

CBS pushed the writers of the first season to produce just another grimdark, everyone-must-be-miserable tentpole show like GoT and Walking Dead.

The Orville is a comedy show, but the guy in charge is a huge Star Trek nerd and can put in references without any qualms because there isn't this big agenda or some imperative to completely redo the premise because of some primal fear that the hipsters in the peanut gallery will express their disdain.

WarWizard10 Mar 2019 4:53 a.m. PST

I started watching Orville season 1. I thought season 2 would get better, but one of the first episodes was focused on one of the crew having a sex addiction. Not what I watch science fiction for. Was that supposed to be funny? I think that was the 'Primal Urges' episode. One viewer referred to it as a couples therapy episode. The Orville doesn't know whether it wants to be a comedy or drama.
Then the entire third episode was focused on Alara's issue of losing her strength. OK. They eventually come to a resolution, which I will not give away. But then another officer joins the crew, from the same species, which means that crew member will eventually have to go through the same process. So why would you want to go through that again? The humor and logic of each episode is just so poor I had to stop watching.

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP10 Mar 2019 10:47 a.m. PST

As I said above the first several episodes of the second season were very poor, however, the last three were really quite good.

Not to give anything away, but some of the best exploding ships I have ever seen.

Garand11 Mar 2019 10:18 a.m. PST

There's a lot of tongue-in-cheek-isms in The Orville. The episode about sex/porn addiction asked the question anyone who has watched Next Gen Trek on has asked: if you have a hyper-realistic immersive VR environment that is otherwise indistinguishable from reality, why would you not use it for sex? Maybe too low-brow for some, but actually a realistic question to ask!


Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2019 3:33 p.m. PST

Is it just me, but do the Orville ships look vaguely like a cross between a toilet seat and some sort of, erm, "feminine appliance?"

I had thought about watching this series, but the name "Seth McFarlane" is enough to put me off.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2019 7:13 p.m. PST

I'm rather "meh" on the Orville.

I must say I don't find a lot of it (most of it actually) very funny.

Some episodes are better than others. Many are just a waste of time and money, which is a pity.

The sets, ships, and computer generated images are really nice – good to see they didn't spare expenses there.

Perhaps they could shift money a bit more towards the writers so they can come up with some better story-lines.

Dynaman878912 Mar 2019 2:13 p.m. PST

> if you have a hyper-realistic immersive VR environment that is otherwise indistinguishable from reality, why would you not use it for sex?

TV censors. The lame-o guy from Engineering did use it for such (in a way you could get away with showing it on TV in the nineties kind of way) in one episode.

Maxshadow16 Mar 2019 11:22 p.m. PST

The Orville is one of the most entertaining TV sci-fi shows that I remember seeing. Hope its not a flash in the Pan.

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