David Manley | 08 Mar 2019 2:01 p.m. PST |
A thought spurred during a discussion on professional wargaming at work today**, coinciding with International Women's Day – who are the women making the biggest impact on the hobby (or the profession) today? I have my thoughts, interested to hear yours. ** A couple of our young lady engineers have been instrumental in getting our "wargaming education" project off the ground; well done Lucy and Becky :) |
TheWhiteDog | 08 Mar 2019 2:08 p.m. PST |
My vote would be for Victoria Lamb, of Victoria Miniatures. Amazing work, and a wonderful company to deal with. |
McKinstry | 08 Mar 2019 2:16 p.m. PST |
Annie the owner of Bad Squiddo is certainly up there on the Fantasy side. Felicia Day and the folks at Geek & Sundry have certainly widened the audience. |
23rdFusilier | 08 Mar 2019 2:20 p.m. PST |
Bad Squiddo Games owner Annie. Brilliant figures and all round great individual. |
PJ ONeill | 08 Mar 2019 2:23 p.m. PST |
I would suggest Heather Blush, for completely revamping and adding to the interesting things to do at the HMGS cons. I have seen many more spouses and children since she added "Hobby University" to the menu. |
Wildman | 08 Mar 2019 2:31 p.m. PST |
Annie Norman of Bad Squiddo Games. She also has historical miniatures. I have about a platoon of her female Russian WWII soldiers. |
Winston Smith | 08 Mar 2019 2:33 p.m. PST |
Sue Barker of WRG and DBA fame. |
fantasque | 08 Mar 2019 2:59 p.m. PST |
Another vote for Annie Norman and Bad Squiddo Games – beautiful, realistic sculpts |
Wherethestreetshavnoname | 08 Mar 2019 3:13 p.m. PST |
Annie Norman and BSG for sure. One of the more original British companies with a fresh take on otherwise hackneyed subjects. |
22ndFoot | 08 Mar 2019 4:05 p.m. PST |
Another vote for Annie Norman at Bad Squiddo Games. |
Walking Sailor | 08 Mar 2019 4:08 p.m. PST |
How about the woman making the biggest impact right here? Editor Gwen |
ZULUPAUL | 08 Mar 2019 5:19 p.m. PST |
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Editor in Chief Bill | 08 Mar 2019 5:49 p.m. PST |
It would be nice if Annie would read her PMs occasionally. I think she owes us an apology… |
WeeSparky | 08 Mar 2019 6:12 p.m. PST |
Another vote for Heather Blush of HMGS. |
whitphoto | 08 Mar 2019 7:04 p.m. PST |
The wives who haven't killed you guys |
HMS Exeter | 08 Mar 2019 7:19 p.m. PST |
I think some of the wives in the hobby protest just to keep from letting on how relieved they are they got guys like us. After all, they could have gotten: Golfers Politicians Bass Fishermen Musicians Televangelists Minstrels Wastrels Squanderers Philanderers Used car salesmen Mugs Pugs Thugs Nitwits Et al |
Narratio | 08 Mar 2019 7:35 p.m. PST |
I'd also vote for Sue Barker. Polite, erudite and, back in the 70's, very willing to speak with teenage idiots at conventions, firing them with her own enthusiasms. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 08 Mar 2019 8:06 p.m. PST |
Sal White of Hasslefree Teresa Gregory of Old Glory Bev Krueger of The Last Square |
Black Cavalier | 08 Mar 2019 10:48 p.m. PST |
Great idea for a poll. But it's interesting that with the poll inspired by International Women's Day, and a number of votes for Annie Norman as an influential woman in the hobby, that the TMP Editors chose remove Annie's post about International Women's Day earlier today as she comments here: link |
mrwigglesworth | 09 Mar 2019 5:23 a.m. PST |
Annie at Bad Squiddo games |
23rdFusilier | 09 Mar 2019 5:32 a.m. PST |
Bill, why was Annie's post deleated? It looks like Twitter (and facebook) is on fire with very negative press about you and TMP for this. International Women's Day sounds like a nobel topic and her figures are first date excellent. What happened here? |
etotheipi | 09 Mar 2019 6:35 a.m. PST |
No idea. If I haven't met you in person, I have neither idea, nor interest in your gender. I have lived too long in too many places to assume because your name is "Bill", or whatever it is, that your name is indicative of your gender. If I have met you in person, with a few very personal family exceptions, I may know your gender, but I really still don't care. If you make a good product, I will buy it. If you write a good game, I will play it. If you play a good game, I will welcome you back to play again. If not, that is really a reflection of my preferences in products, games, and gaming. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Mar 2019 11:20 a.m. PST |
Bill, why was Annie's post deleated? As was explained to Annie at the time, TMP has a policy against non-advertisers posting "free shipping" promotions on our forum. Nothing to do with International Women's Day. Note that we earlier published the Hobby News story about Women's History Month, but that was from an advertiser. TMP link |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Mar 2019 12:43 p.m. PST |
As the TMP FAQ states: Can I announce that I'm having a sale? Only if you are a TMP advertiser, sorry. Sales, discounts, promotions, special bundles – sorry, not allowed for non-advertisers.
TMP link |
DisasterWargamer | 09 Mar 2019 1:15 p.m. PST |
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23rdFusilier | 09 Mar 2019 1:19 p.m. PST |
I understand what you are saying and I understand the rule. But considering the incredible amount of bad publicity for TMP on twitter, Facebook and other forums could this have been handled a bit differently? |
Uesugi Kenshin | 09 Mar 2019 1:32 p.m. PST |
There are a number of women with youtube channels who promote miniatures, boardgames and D&D. I don't know any by name but I would nominate them all! |
Von Trinkenessen | 09 Mar 2019 3:46 p.m. PST |
For me it would be Annie from Bad Squiddo for making female figures that I am proud that my thirteen year old daughter wants to game with!! |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Mar 2019 7:22 p.m. PST |
But considering the incredible amount of bad publicity for TMP on twitter, Facebook and other forums could this have been handled a bit differently? Not my fault that Annie is making a fool of herself. Hopefully, her apology will be as public as her previous posts. |
Bad Squiddo Games | 10 Mar 2019 2:49 a.m. PST |
Thank you so much for the lovely comments, someone linked me to over here, utterly humbling! There are lots of women making strides in the industry, I'm just one who chucks my face all over everything. It's a hard industry to work in, so I am super thankful and cheered by anyone who does a "hey, that thing you do, we like it, keep doing it!" <3 -- Apologies for breaking the rules re the post. It's been an especially long week and I must have forgot the rest of the padding in the post as I was hoping it would turn into a general IWD discussion. I also blindly didn't see it as a sale (again, need sleeps) as I was focussing on the whole "your own personalised fact with the stuff" special, which has meant me spending most the weekend writing out facts about cool women from history with each order – which although is extra work I didn't take into account, it's been really exciting finding out more things, as well as the excitement the second time around when people read them when the package arrives, Squeep! But anywhom, point taken and I shant post here of that nature again. -- Anyway, surely this thread should be getting back on topic? I'd like to nominate Delaney King of Darkling Games. She's been around a long time and fought so many hardships, as well as being an outspoken advocate of LGBTQI+ issues and trying to kick the industry's ass to be better in that respect. She's an incredible sculptor, 2d artist and writer, and the stuff she is coming out with now makes me really excited. (Annie, troublemaker) |
Ralph Plowman | 10 Mar 2019 3:37 a.m. PST |
Given the repeated urging from Bill for an apology, I'm sure we can expect an "apology accepted Annie, all is forgiven" post from him? I'm sure it's what he'd expect… |
Basha Felika | 10 Mar 2019 12:40 p.m. PST |
Now that's how an apology should be made – well done, Annie, you definitely deserve those nominations. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 10 Mar 2019 1:28 p.m. PST |
Apology accepted, but it would be nice if the same message was posted to Twitter. After all, that is where the original error was made. |
etotheipi | 10 Mar 2019 2:29 p.m. PST |
it would be nice if the same message was posted to Twitter. What happened on Twitter is what happens on Twitter … TwitterStorm – n 1. The opportunity for a large number of people who are angry with something to post their gripe in response to a post that shares the same subject, regardless of any relationship to the content of original post, with all the erudite, informative quality that fits in 140 charasters.* * – While Twitter has been at 280 characters messages for a while, their own stats show that the Twits on the system by and large do not use that extra space. Apparently, their clientele lack thoughts that require more space. Basically, facts and substance are not relevant. Most of the people who posted did not care about the issue to which they were "responding"; they just wanted to vent their old, unrelated bile at the current target. Twitter is a great medium for short announcements of stats, possibly linked to further information. It was named after a short, shrill animal noise with the purpose of grabbing attention and causing a visceral response. Basically, if someone Tweeted, "TMP just saved twelve children and fifteen puppies from a burning building." The likely first response would be "Yeah, their editor is a !" |
Winston Smith | 10 Mar 2019 2:32 p.m. PST |
And this is why I don't tweet. |
von Schwartz | 10 Mar 2019 5:36 p.m. PST |
I wanna buy eto a drink!! |
von Schwartz | 10 Mar 2019 5:36 p.m. PST |
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cabin4clw | 10 Mar 2019 6:33 p.m. PST |
A vote for my wife. Because I am On disability, I am not allowed to drive so she will take me to Grand Haven, almost 40 minutes away from home, she will sit in our car. 4-4.5 hours later and then we go home. What a treasure. Also Bev from Last Square is great to deal with. |
Legion 4 | 11 Mar 2019 7:46 a.m. PST |
For what I can see the only way women that have impacted the hobby. When my buddie's wife wouldn't let him come over to game. Because on the weekends he was spending more time with me than her ! |
Fried Flintstone | 11 Mar 2019 4:45 p.m. PST |
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Editor in Chief Bill | 11 Mar 2019 5:22 p.m. PST |
Great post Annie. Classy Really? She trashed TMP unfairly to all of her Twitter followers, then only apologized on this topic. Seems the opposite of classy. |
etotheipi | 12 Mar 2019 6:27 a.m. PST |
Unfortunately, retracting a Tweet that has spawned a TwitterStorm usually does no good. The people who responded with bile don't care about the retraction and are likely to call the retractor a sell-out, stooge, or one of the other vile things they actually called people who don't agree with them in this particular TwitterStorm. People who don't know anything other that what they saw in the TwitterStorm are unlikely to go back to it and read again. They are even less likely to put a retraction in context. |
Legion 4 | 12 Mar 2019 7:26 a.m. PST |
Nothing good generally comes from posting on Twitter … Never have and never will … |
Fried Flintstone | 12 Mar 2019 5:40 p.m. PST |
Really? She trashed TMP unfairly to all of her Twitter followers, then only apologized on this topic. Seems the opposite of classy. I didn't see her tweet. I thought her apology above was classy. |
etotheipi | 13 Mar 2019 8:17 a.m. PST |
I didn't see her tweet. That is the issue the editor is bringing up. You didn't see the Tweet, but you say the apology. People on Twitter saw the Tweet, but not the apology. |
Uesugi Kenshin | 13 Mar 2019 9:31 a.m. PST |
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Montgomery OTool | 14 Mar 2019 5:51 a.m. PST |
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Red3584 | 15 Mar 2019 3:23 a.m. PST |
I didn't see anything negative from Annie…some of the following comments on the Twitter thread clearly were, but her original comment was very moderate and reasonable. |
etotheipi | 15 Mar 2019 7:05 a.m. PST |
So "Wow" twice does not imply emphasis and condescending disbelief? And writing "deleted my International Women's Day thread" instead of "delete my ad that violated the site's TOR" does not make an implication about motivation and behaviour of the site's management, let alone one that is incorrect? |
Red3584 | 15 Mar 2019 11:33 a.m. PST |
Perhaps it does in your eyes…not in mine. |