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Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2019 8:42 p.m. PST

Just as the title says. I've heard that they wore gray (maybe a bluish-gray?) uniforms and I've heard that they wore sky blue uniforms, like the Army's. I've also heard that they "borrowed" the Army's accoutrements, i.e. crossbelts, haversacks, etc.

Also, did they ever wear the Model 1833 "Hogkiller" leather forage cap in action, or was there another type of headgear used before the U.S. military's adoption of the 1839 forage cap?

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Mr J197005 Mar 2019 6:11 a.m. PST

Hi,

I'm no expert but I'm using the colour plates (D2 from Osprey's MMA 454, "The Seminole Wars 1818 – 58")and plate (H3 from Osprey's MMA 398, "The Texan Army 1835 – 46".Combined they give a good impression of a U.S. marine in onshore service rig.

Both figures appear in grey regulation uniform, with the flat service cap. If you are gaming this in 28mm I would opt for Artisan Design's "New Orleans Greys" figures which come with a flatter style of cap that appears to match the Marines issue. I'm using Boot Hill's "Greys" and U.S. regulars deserters for my regular troops.


With regards the "Hogkiller" and summer white uniform of cotton, the cover "Swamp Sailors in the Second Seminole War" appears to show sailors and marines together, the marines (as stated) appearing to wear both of the above, so I would say it's anybody's guess really.

Personally I'd opt for the grey to distinguish them from my regulars in dragoons who are in a mix of whites and Kersey blue, with "Hogkiller" and fatigue caps.

Googling US MARINE uniform Seminole War produced a link to a Don Troiani print which lists a Marine as 1812, but it looks like a later uniform with the "Hogkiller" fatigue cap. He's usually absolutely spot on with his research!

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Anyway all the best with your research!

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP06 Mar 2019 11:25 a.m. PST

Mr J1970, thank you very much for your reply. In thinking about your comments, I believe you are right in painting the uniforms of the U.S. Marines grey, if just to set them visually apart from the Army.

Speaking of the book Swamp Sailors in the Second Seminole War, I got a copy from eBay recently and received it quickly, and it is a VERY informative book regarding the Navy's role during the war. It makes me think about creating a scenario combining saltwater and fresh water elements in an amphibious/support role in either 15mm or 6mm.

Thank you again, Mr J1970! thumbs up

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