Help support TMP

"PFC C-in-C is closing by 7/31/2019" Topic

112 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please avoid recent politics on the forums.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.

Back to the Naval Gaming 1898-1929 Message Board

Back to the 6mm Sci-Fi Message Board

Back to the Modern Aviation Discussion (1946-2011) Message Board

Back to the WWII Discussion Message Board

Back to the WWII Naval Discussion Message Board

Back to the SF Discussion Message Board

Back to the Modern Naval Discussion (1946 to 2011) Message Board

Back to the Cold War (1946-1989) Message Board

Back to the Hobby Industry Message Board

Areas of Interest

World War One
World War Two on the Land
World War Two at Sea
Science Fiction

Featured Hobby News Article

Featured Link

Top-Rated Ruleset

Battleground: World War II

Rating: gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star 

Featured Profile Article

AEWWII at Gen Con

Paul Glasser almost missed out on his most-enjoyable game at Gen Con 2008.

13,567 hits since 27 Feb 2019
©1994-2021 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Pages: 1 2 3 

whenimaginationfails27 Feb 2019 7:43 p.m. PST

PFC C-in-C announced that it has to move from its current space by 7/31/2019 and Randy has decided to close the business rather than move.

Randy is looking into selling off the lines and contracting out his casting and mold making skills.

He makes a variety of scales and periods including, ww2/modern/scifi 1/285th and ww1/ww2/modern 1/2400 naval miniatures.


Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian27 Feb 2019 7:55 p.m. PST

He doesn't respond to emails, so it will be hard to do business with him.

Mark 127 Feb 2019 8:00 p.m. PST

Closing?!?! Say it isn't so!

Sad to see C-in-C go. I have bought many C-in-C products over the years.

(aka: Mk 1)

vicmagpa127 Feb 2019 8:08 p.m. PST

sorry to see you go. But understood.

whenimaginationfails27 Feb 2019 8:14 p.m. PST

He is better about responding to emails if you get the right email address, Bill, but it isn't always clear which one is the right one.

Hopefully the lines get sold off. There are a lot of good ones.

Thresher0127 Feb 2019 8:55 p.m. PST

Very sorry to hear this.

I have a lot of their items, and want to buy more before he closes.

A lot of his vehicles, vessels, etc. are of excellent quality, rivaling those of GHQ, for far less money.

Best of luck in finding a new home for the ranges. It would be a terrible shame to the wargaming community, if some of the excellent minis suddenly become unavailable.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian27 Feb 2019 9:02 p.m. PST

He is better about responding to emails if you get the right email address, Bill, but it isn't always clear which one is the right one.

Using the one he asked me to use. grin

goragrad27 Feb 2019 9:05 p.m. PST

Sad – haven't picked up anything for a while, but my preferred source for 1/285 and 1/2400.

d88mm194027 Feb 2019 9:23 p.m. PST


Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2019 11:28 p.m. PST

Well…. crap.

I too hope someone buys the ranges and keeps them going.

irishserb28 Feb 2019 5:11 a.m. PST

Crushing news, by far my preferred source for this scale.

HMS Exeter28 Feb 2019 7:22 a.m. PST

I'm sure someone has/will contact/ed CinC to find out when they plan to stop taking orders. Would that person please post the info here? There are a few odds and ends I'd like to get before they shutter, assuming it's not too late already.


Legion 428 Feb 2019 8:32 a.m. PST

Hopefully he gets a buyer(s). His 6mm Sci-fi lines are great !

beingshort128 Feb 2019 10:01 a.m. PST

Ughhh. Hope someone carries on.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2019 2:00 p.m. PST

Moment of silence

Formerly 298TYR28 Feb 2019 4:04 p.m. PST

They do a lot of vehicles in 6mm that you can't get anywhere else. Some of their soviet stuff is truly excellent.

Lion in the Stars28 Feb 2019 4:40 p.m. PST

They also do the Renegade Legion scifi range…

beingshort128 Feb 2019 5:03 p.m. PST

Won't lie even tho it may sound silly. I've been in a sad mood all day after hearing this. I understand his reasoning but still sucks. I hope someone carries on the awesome lines. It be a major hot to the 6mm community if they're taken out completely.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian28 Feb 2019 10:05 p.m. PST

I'm sure someone has/will contact/ed CinC to find out when they plan to stop taking orders. Would that person please post the info here?

I've emailed twice in February, to two different email addresses, and have been unable to get a response.

Valderian01 Mar 2019 12:38 a.m. PST

It's always sad for all of us when a company will close, no matter if now the competition for 6mm miniatures is big.
But I have a problem with :the site never works! I have found in the past other messages saying it is working, but some still say it doesn't. What is the trick? At least the facebook page works. Also, hope someone from Europe will buy at least some ranges of miniatures…

Fitzovich Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2019 5:33 a.m. PST

Valderian is correct in that it is truly sad to see another name fade from the scene and we all lose a little when that happens. Hopefully the company will be sold and the lines continue but if not one can only wish all the folks at CinC the best for the future. Stock up while you can do so on the items that you want or may want down the road.

williamb01 Mar 2019 7:29 a.m. PST

This page has his physical address and one of the two email addresses listed on the site link

crazycaptain01 Mar 2019 2:44 p.m. PST

Some of my favorite cold war era Russian vehicles are CinC :(

Is he taking orders anymore?

Aapsych2001 Mar 2019 8:51 p.m. PST

That's a huge loss to our hobby. His work was amazing, especially for the time in which the company thrived.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2019 12:58 a.m. PST

I placed my first final order today. I should only have about a half dozen more final orders before I think I can live without C-in-C…

- Ix

Heedless Horseman02 Mar 2019 7:26 p.m. PST

Just put an order in to (U.K supplier)
Unless they reorder, many items sold out.
1/285 is getting a bit small for my eyes, but, WTH, some useful kit. Best wishes for the future.

chironex02 Mar 2019 10:21 p.m. PST

Just had to happen now, didn't it? I haven't got a home now, and am in no state to buy hobby items, so cannot get a last order in, and now they close just when I cannot possibly justify ordering one last order of Renegade Legion craft. Here's hoping someone picks up those.

Legion 403 Mar 2019 7:45 a.m. PST

Talk about CinC on GHQ forum thread … may be of some interest …

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian03 Mar 2019 3:11 p.m. PST

Let's hope the rumor about a new owner is true, and let's hope the new owner is better at communication on social media.

Legion 404 Mar 2019 6:53 a.m. PST

I am e-pals with the owner of the SEM Line. He and I have been emailing. I am hoping he at least gets his greens back and cast models. And gets a new company to carry the SEM line and give it better service than previously.

E.g. Exodus Wars sold all over to HLS Models, and Angel Barracks to Cp Models. So here's hoping PFC/CinC can do similar …

Any model company looking for a new set of ranges ?

Tumbleweed Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2019 2:40 p.m. PST

For every new mold that is made, another will be put on a shelf in a garage or a basement somewhere, never to be seen again.

Now if I could just find that map that shows where all the basements and garages are….!!!

Legion 414 Mar 2019 2:15 a.m. PST

One of my e-pals on Tac Cmd posted this email from PFC/CinC …

Latest email update-
"There is a lot to do. I expect to do weekly news letters . The site will remain for items I keep and new designs. I hope to go to conventions again and kick some butt. Watch for new lines or designs. "

So …

ScoutJock17 Apr 2019 4:14 p.m. PST

Received this in an email today:

Hopefully, all orders will be done before the end of May when the molds for the tanks, aircraft and 1/200 ships will go to Canada.
NO orders will be taken after this newsletter. Keep checking this to see how things are going and the items that will still come from this site. Sci-fi, N-scale etc.
Notices of new items will be here and a link to Legions IV Hire will be the products come back up to speed.

Bad news is sounds like he has shut ordering off on his site.

Good news is it looks like LegionsIVhire bought some of his micro armor lines. I've done a fair bit of business with Legion on the terrain side and he is a solid guy so I'm looking forward to doing more.

Good luck to all concerned.

Legion 417 Apr 2019 4:47 p.m. PST

FYI … I am Not LegionIVhire … I'm just Legion 4 … evil grin

ScoutJock18 Apr 2019 6:10 a.m. PST


PVT64118 Apr 2019 8:24 a.m. PST

I just happened to place an order the night before. Got in under the gun!

Lion in the Stars18 Apr 2019 6:04 p.m. PST


Need to find out where the Renegade Legion minis are going.

Kiwi Red One19 Apr 2019 3:24 a.m. PST

From a quick google search it looks like all the 1/285 WW2, modern and Renegade Legion micro armour plus the 1/285 accessories and micro squadron ranges are heading over to LegionsIVhire site:

all the C -in-C stuff is marked as new but "out of stock" currently.

Uparmored23 Apr 2019 5:19 a.m. PST

My Marines thank Randy for his Phrogs that lifted them into their AO at Cancon '19. GHQ don't make a phrog or a lot of stuff CinC does.

Mark 123 Apr 2019 6:26 p.m. PST

I for one am greatly encouraged to see Legions IV Hire taking hold of the PFC C-in-C line.

But … is this actually Legions IV Hire for production? Or just as the retail front end?

When Leva sold his line he sold it to DB Miniatures, with Legions IV Hire as the front end (sales channel). I wonder if the same will take place here.

In any case the Leva line seems to have landed in good hands. My admittedly brief experiences with Leva and L4H have all been quite positive.

(aka: Mk 1)

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian23 Apr 2019 8:56 p.m. PST

Just as the retail front end, see my post on the other topic.

Thresher0124 Apr 2019 8:01 p.m. PST

Bummer, I thought I had more time to get an order in, but understand Randy being swamped with orders before the closure.

Best of luck to you, Randy, and thank you for all the great service, and nicely cast minis over the years.

Will have to wait patiently, I suspect, for the new owner to make things available again.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian24 Apr 2019 8:03 p.m. PST

Will have to wait patiently, I suspect, for the new owner to make things available again.

It's not a new owner, Thresher01. Just a new retail front-end.

chrisswim11 May 2019 11:28 p.m. PST

Randy has been great for me. Really helpful.
Pleasure to work with him directly for 20 years.

Lion in the Stars12 May 2019 7:52 a.m. PST

Thank you, Kiwi Red One!

Legion 413 May 2019 6:40 a.m. PST

I hope it get's sorted out, somehow ?! There are a number of models from the SEM line that needs[I want !] to be released ! frown

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian13 May 2019 7:10 p.m. PST

I still can't get an answer from C-in-C. And the new guy has stopped answering email. Not a good sign. frown

beingshort114 May 2019 1:08 a.m. PST

Fingers crossed it's not something bad.

ScoutJock14 May 2019 6:50 a.m. PST

On the plus side Legions IV Hire has added a bunch of Nam era sandbagged Firebase style bunkers to his lineup!

Legion 414 May 2019 7:10 a.m. PST

Oh ! May have to take a look !!! Thanks !!!

Pages: 1 2 3