"Snow in the Battle of the Bulge" Topic
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23 Feb 2019 11:04 a.m. PST by Editor in Chief Bill
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Thresher01 | 23 Feb 2019 10:00 a.m. PST |
I know the weather was bad, at least initially, during the Battle of the Bulge – the Germans planned it that way. However, I can't recall when the snowstorms started, and on what dates/periods there was lots of snow on the ground to affect operations. I do know that from the outset, visibility was poor due to fog, and there was light rain, initially. I also know that clear skies were present for a bit starting on Dec. 23rd, so the USAAC could help support the US ground troops. So, anyone know when the snow started falling, when it was present on the ground, and if it stuck – dates would be helpful (rough times as well on those days would be superb)? Seems like there was more after Christmas as well, slowing the allied counterattacks against the Germans. |
Marc33594 | 23 Feb 2019 10:34 a.m. PST |
This should get you started Thresher PDF link |
The Virtual Armchair General | 23 Feb 2019 11:27 a.m. PST |
WOW! Thank you for posting the link! Dived on it like a duck on a bug…. TVAG |
TMPWargamerabbit | 23 Feb 2019 11:49 a.m. PST |
Great link stuff. Thank you too. filed the .pdf away for more Bulge scenarios. |
Marc33594 | 23 Feb 2019 1:05 p.m. PST |
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Thresher01 | 23 Feb 2019 10:44 p.m. PST |
Thank you for that link, it is very useful. One anecdote I found from a 502nd PIR, 101st Airborne member, is that it started snowing where he was at on the 20th of December, and they awoke the following morning to a heavy blanket of snow on everything. Seems as if it stuck until at least Christmas, and after. He was manning a roadblock outside of a small town, about 5 kms. (miles?) north of Bastogne. Dec. 16th seems to be mainly rain, drizzle, and fog, though I did see mention of snow flurries too (not absolutely sure the latter actually occurred on this day/overnight). |
Legion 4 | 24 Feb 2019 10:16 a.m. PST |
mainly rain, drizzle, and fog, though I did see mention of snow flurries too (not absolutely sure the latter actually occurred on this day/overnight). In any case for a Grunt in a hole the weather would have sucked ! Especially that many US troops during that winter didn't have proper cold weather gear. Making a very bad situation much, much, worse. |
Wackmole9 | 25 Feb 2019 8:44 a.m. PST |
It snow so much during the battle that the 291st Combat Engineers had to uses Metal detectors to find the bodies of the Malmedy massacre Victim. |
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