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23 Feb 2019 11:04 a.m. PST
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Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2019 10:00 a.m. PST

I know the weather was bad, at least initially, during the Battle of the Bulge – the Germans planned it that way.

However, I can't recall when the snowstorms started, and on what dates/periods there was lots of snow on the ground to affect operations.

I do know that from the outset, visibility was poor due to fog, and there was light rain, initially. I also know that clear skies were present for a bit starting on Dec. 23rd, so the USAAC could help support the US ground troops.

So, anyone know when the snow started falling, when it was present on the ground, and if it stuck – dates would be helpful (rough times as well on those days would be superb)?

Seems like there was more after Christmas as well, slowing the allied counterattacks against the Germans.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2019 10:34 a.m. PST

This should get you started Thresher
PDF link

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Feb 2019 11:27 a.m. PST

WOW! Thank you for posting the link!

Dived on it like a duck on a bug….

TVAG

TMPWargamerabbit23 Feb 2019 11:49 a.m. PST

Great link stuff. Thank you too. filed the .pdf away for more Bulge scenarios.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2019 1:05 p.m. PST

My pleasure.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2019 10:44 p.m. PST

Thank you for that link, it is very useful.

One anecdote I found from a 502nd PIR, 101st Airborne member, is that it started snowing where he was at on the 20th of December, and they awoke the following morning to a heavy blanket of snow on everything. Seems as if it stuck until at least Christmas, and after.

He was manning a roadblock outside of a small town, about 5 kms. (miles?) north of Bastogne.

Dec. 16th seems to be mainly rain, drizzle, and fog, though I did see mention of snow flurries too (not absolutely sure the latter actually occurred on this day/overnight).

Legion 424 Feb 2019 10:16 a.m. PST

mainly rain, drizzle, and fog, though I did see mention of snow flurries too (not absolutely sure the latter actually occurred on this day/overnight).
In any case for a Grunt in a hole the weather would have sucked ! Especially that many US troops during that winter didn't have proper cold weather gear. Making a very bad situation much, much, worse.

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2019 8:44 a.m. PST

It snow so much during the battle that the 291st Combat Engineers had to uses Metal detectors to find the bodies of the Malmedy massacre Victim.

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