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Prince Alberts Revenge21 Feb 2019 4:55 p.m. PST

In a French Demi Brigade, i understand that the 2nd battalion typically had a different type of flag then the 1st and 3rd; did the 1st and 3rd each have a flag of the same style or did they just have one flag to "share" between the 2? Thanks!

Valmy9221 Feb 2019 6:14 p.m. PST

One for each, same pattern. 2nd battalion was same for all D-Bs but for the number.

Mike Petro21 Feb 2019 9:24 p.m. PST

Hmmm…never heard of that PAR.Thought they were all the same in a DB.

von Winterfeldt22 Feb 2019 12:04 a.m. PST

I agree with Valmy 92 – a good and affordable book, with numerous illustrations showing each colour from 1789 onwards is

Letrun : Des Drapeaux de la Révolution et de l:Empire – including those of dĚtalie and d'Egypte

Chad4722 Feb 2019 3:15 a.m. PST

So the information on the website for 1794 Flags is wrong?

Prince of Essling22 Feb 2019 10:36 a.m. PST

From Alfons Canovas website

von Winterfeldt22 Feb 2019 11:49 a.m. PST

So the information on the website for 1794 Flags is wrong?

It shows on top the colour for 1er and 3e demi brigade, below that od 2nd demi brigade – so colour for 1er and 3e demi brigade are of identical patterns, or so it seems, I did not fully research the topic yet – so it seems the information given is good.

the patter of 2nd demi brigade, which would be the center battalion in a battle line is – from the number apart – identical for all demi brigades.

Boney of course had to create a special design for his own d'Italie, which however was introduced after his first Italian campaign but formed more or less the pattern for the Armée d'Orient.

Major Bloodnok23 Feb 2019 4:13 a.m. PST

As far as I know PAR is correct. Other sites show each DB having its own "regimental" flag while all the 2nd bns. of a DB carried the "national pattern". Now it may mean the the issue of a national & DB pattern flag was the official system and what happened in the field…?

von Winterfeldt23 Feb 2019 10:45 a.m. PST

it pretty much happened in the field, as captured demi brigade colours prove, they question for me however, due to 2 amalgamations, what colour did eventually the demi brigades of 1796 did carry, when made out of umpteen different demi brigades??

Brechtel198 Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2019 2:59 p.m. PST

I found that both O Hollander and Ludovic Letrun have done excellent work on French infantry colors.

Lutrun's book for those interested is French Infantry Flags: From 1786 to the end of the First Empire.

That book used with Avril's Avantages d'une bonne discipline is very useful in the research for French infantry colors of the Revolutionary Wars.

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