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1968billsfan Supporting Member of TMP19 Feb 2019 3:30 p.m. PST

I do 20th century naval in 1/2400 and, somehow, got these ships identified as British WWII county CA's. They are really really small compared to other such ships. They are 53mm long, so if they are 1:2400 they are 417 feet long and if they are 1:3000 they are 521 feet long. They seem to have 4 funnels, 3 or 4 twin mounts, no obvious torpedo mounts. The underside is stamped into the metal with either a "86" or a "98". Which side is up? AND different ships have the # bow to left and also bow to right……………. They are NOT county class. What are they? They are not obviously CiC by any pertubation of the possible number and I don't know who else prints such 2 digit ID numbers. Any ideas? (they are going on the big lead pile for now)

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Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP19 Feb 2019 3:57 p.m. PST

I think it might be a high-speed minelayer of the Manxman class. These were small cruiser size.

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Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP19 Feb 2019 4:14 p.m. PST

If the inked 'Kent' is correct, it would be a County class heavy cruiser

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HMS Manxman…

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Levi the Ox19 Feb 2019 8:45 p.m. PST

I'm going to also say the Abdiel/Manxman-class. The turrets of the miniatures shown in your photo are pretty small, and the two separate structures aft of the funnels track closely to that layout. Plus, the scale length is spot-on for a 1:2400 ratio.

3 Funnels. 2-4 twin 4-inch DP mounts depending on the ship. A mix of AAA, including some multi-gun mounts that might have replaced some of the twin turrets. Capable of 40 knots!

dragon619 Feb 2019 10:26 p.m. PST

Definitely a CinC Manxman class MF-66 Apollo. They come three to a box.

1968billsfan Supporting Member of TMP19 Feb 2019 10:46 p.m. PST

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Yep, that seems to be it. Here is a layout view of the ship. It is spot on. No other ship has that same array of 3 funnels with that spacing- although my models have the first funnel smaller than the diagram and even might show a raked back 4th funnel (it did have 4 boilers) The 3 small gun 4" turrets seems to be right- 2 twin forward and one aft. thanks for the help.

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goragrad19 Feb 2019 11:28 p.m. PST

Definitely Abdiel or Manxman.

1968billsfan Supporting Member of TMP20 Feb 2019 8:31 a.m. PST

Well, sorting through the lead pile I find that I have 5 painted minelayers and 3 new in box. That could lead to some really frustrating games for our crowd….. Should I do it?………. A few of those guys deserve, the sort of game my evil side is starting to think about……. Naw. If you have any interest in these, I'm going to post most of them in the "MARKETPLACE" for bargain prices.

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP20 Feb 2019 3:50 p.m. PST

They were also used to make high-speed supply runs to Malta, which might make an interesting element for a Mediterranean scenario.

Levi the Ox22 Feb 2019 7:59 p.m. PST

Yeah, although they don't have much firepower compared to other cruisers they'd make for a good scenario with some destroyers.

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