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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian15 Feb 2019 6:36 p.m. PST

Which battle would you rather play with miniatures on the tabletop?

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2019 6:49 p.m. PST

Crecy. I ve done Agincourt in 28mm and it was fun but I wouldn't do it again. The French are just hardtied and doomed.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2019 8:33 p.m. PST

Crecy, though IMHO in both battles the French are doomed. The English hold the best ground, in a superior defensive position with strongly protected flanks. The best bet for the French is to avoid battle altogether and seek more advantageous ground.

KSmyth15 Feb 2019 9:59 p.m. PST

They're both pretty awful for the French without really manipulating the scenario.

Poitiers would make a better game. Even though the English hold a strong defensive position, there are fewer archers, they are handicapped by ammunition supply. It's a real slog with the English terribly outnumbered.

Old Contemptibles15 Feb 2019 10:19 p.m. PST

I have played Agencourt as the English. It was great fun for me but the poor French. I would attempt again but if I was the GM I would play the French. Whenever I want to do a historical battle and one side never stood a chance then I play that side.

I think it would work better as a campaign game. That way the French can choose not to attack in such a situation. The French should never have fought in that terrain. Same goes for Cercy and Waterloo for that matter.

Musketballs Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2019 11:12 p.m. PST

Verneuil…a chance to get some Scots on the table as well.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2019 1:26 a.m. PST

Crecy and Poitiers have cooler armor.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2019 5:50 a.m. PST

Crecy!

darthfozzywig Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2019 10:58 a.m. PST

That's why the old SPI Agincourt game made the historical setup as a solo game: there's just nothing to be done as the French if you play it straight.

coopman16 Feb 2019 5:41 p.m. PST

Crecy had to be a better battle than the massacre that was Agincourt.

3AcresAndATau16 Feb 2019 7:56 p.m. PST

Do Poitiers, and stretch the armies a little bit in either direction :)

Quite frankly, however, I would rather game the Scottish wars Edward I and II. I feel like Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn, and Falkirk will all give better games than any HYW set piece.

Thresher0116 Feb 2019 8:01 p.m. PST

You could play various options for Agincourt, in order to give the French a better chance, especially the end-around maneuver to the English flank/rear.

Perhaps not have the French be so impetuous, and overcrowd the center, or presume it wasn't so muddy there. Both of those changes could make life interesting for the English too.

Erzherzog Johann22 Feb 2019 11:10 p.m. PST

Perhaps though more in the Chinese sense . . .

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