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nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Feb 2019 2:53 p.m. PST

I have a couple of boxes of Perry Continental plastics to paint.

I'm looking for suggestions for Brown Coats faced ? Red Buff? Whatever.
I already have Hazens, Sherburne's Additional Regiment, and one or two others. Penn and Conn units I think.

Any suggestions for Brown faced ?

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2019 3:08 p.m. PST

The Associators I'm painting had three brown coat battalions faced red, buff and white. I will have all 3 done very soon. Honest!
I got a nice bunch of der Alte Fritz's Firing Line dismounted cavalry many years ago. I painted them as Philadelphia Light Horse, brown faced white.
I'm pretty sure Mollo has a Regiment with green facings and maybe one with blue. I don't have it at work. They might be based on dubious "deserter descriptions" though.

dBerczerk14 Feb 2019 5:05 p.m. PST

I plan to paint up several extra packs of Old Glory 2nd Generation British infantry as the 3rd Pennsylvania Battalion in Brown Coats face White -- captured British uniform coats dyed brown with the original white facings re-attached.

link

RudyNelson14 Feb 2019 8:23 p.m. PST

In time Portal passages article we had a section on all of the brown coat uniforms.

Terry3714 Feb 2019 9:08 p.m. PST

Have to go with Sherburne's Regiment for sure. Brown coats, faced yellow, green vest and trousers. So unique it's beautiful!

Uniform here

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Terry

RudyNelson14 Feb 2019 9:41 p.m. PST

Brown with facings 20 red most common; green 6; light blue 6; buff 5; white 4; yellow 3; Lgt brown with red 5. Captured red uniforms dyed with blue tended to turn brown gray and a few black.
Connwadsworth, Eli, Newberry, Mansfield in 1777. 2nd and 4th with 3rd in Lgt brown. 5th brown and 7th Lgt brown. Johnson brown with red in 78. State militia wore brown with red or white facings from 1779-81. Lgt horse also wore brown.

RudyNelson14 Feb 2019 9:45 p.m. PST

Brown was very common in PA units in 1776-77. 11 units. The 2nd Canadian also wore brown for the entire war.

23rdFusilier Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2019 5:28 a.m. PST

Brown coats were very common with New England troops in 1775 and 1776. Combinations of brown faced red, blue, white, and buff are mentioned in various returns and deserter reports.

historygamer Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2019 6:37 a.m. PST

The most common color for brown coat facings would be red. The lottery coats shipped over France were either blue faced red, or brown faced red. All my regimental coat figures are either one or the other. So unless you are looking to recreate one of the early war units with odd coat and/or facing colors (e.g., grey faced green), I'd go with brown and red.

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Feb 2019 5:31 p.m. PST

I already have Sherburne's Regiment and the Associators.
Those were the two I could not think of.

Rudy who wore light blue, white or buff

Bill N16 Feb 2019 7:41 a.m. PST

As I recall NC received a number of brown regimental coats faced red, blue and white, along with some grey and blue regimental coats in 1776 to outfit the Continentals they were raising. This would have been the uniform for the NC line at Brandywine. Unfortunately could not locate my initial source that indicated the numbers of each.received.

The 3rd NY in 1776 wore brown faced green in 1776 which could look cool. Perry indicates Gist's extra regiment wore the same uniform later in the war.

Bill N16 Feb 2019 8:22 a.m. PST

Just found the source for NC. Sorry but no brown faced blue listed. Brown uniforms were faced either red or white. Drab uniforms were faced blue or red. There were also "mixed" coats faced red. There were sergeant uniforms for three regiments and reversed color musician uniforms faced brown and faced drab, and the delivery included breeches and hunting shirts. Source was NC Patriots 1775-1783.

RudyNelson16 Feb 2019 11:19 a.m. PST

North Carolina had brown with red State Rgt 1776; with white a State Rgtand a Drab with blue facings also in 1776. Not much detail on exactly which unit wore which one in 1776.

Major Bloodnok19 Feb 2019 12:13 p.m. PST

Late in the war the 10th Mass. had brown faced white. To beef up the Mass. line reg'ts Washington disbanded the 10th and had them assigned to other Mass reg'ts. At a review of the Mass troops he sees blue faced white units, each with a sprinkling of brown faced white soldiers. After that he reconstituted the 10th.

historygamer Supporting Member of TMP19 Feb 2019 12:42 p.m. PST

British regiments had the same problem when soldiers transferred or were drafted into other regiments. They wore their old regiment's uniforms till the new ones were issued.

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Feb 2019 12:55 a.m. PST

Still looking for a Red faced Blue unit.

RudyNelson21 Feb 2019 4:36 p.m. PST

Missed your question nevinsrip. I will look it up when I get home from class.
Any particular facing or State? On the Light blue?

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Feb 2019 5:25 p.m. PST

Thanks Rudy. A list of units who wore the brown/light blue would be appreciated. It cant be that many, can there?

RudyNelson22 Feb 2019 6:58 p.m. PST

You can send me your email and I can send you a copy of the article if I still have it on a thumb drive. It has been 18 years since I published it.

Maryland 2nd State militia in 1776 Lgt blue with green facings
3rd VA Rgt in 1778 had mid-blue coats with Lgt blue facings
VA Taliaferro company 1775-76 mid blue with no noted facings
SC Militia Lgt Horse in 1781-82 had light blue coats with each company/troop having a different facing, red, black, blue, green
New Hampshire 2nd Rgt 1776-78 light blue with red facings and red or buff small clothes, trousers blue or buff
8th Mass mid blue with red facings

RudyNelson22 Feb 2019 6:59 p.m. PST

Send request to scottnelson@bellsouth.net
Bunches of brown and Lgt brown

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