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MarkAMorin Supporting Member of TMP11 Feb 2019 10:12 p.m. PST

The Germans get some Italian help

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Gerard Leman12 Feb 2019 8:32 a.m. PST

Very nice. I see you included crew in your Semevente 47's. Gotta think that it must have been cozy in the fighting compartment of one of those, given that the vehicle had a 3 man crew. Not so bad in Russia – perhaps a tad "odiferous" in North Africa, where shower facilities would have been non-existant.

Legion 412 Feb 2019 9:00 a.m. PST

Great paint jobs ! As far as the Italians on the Russian front, it always surprised be a bit, they never deployed any of their "best" AFV there. No M13/40s ever were deployed.

Not that they were much of a match for T34s, etc. But the other older light AFVs the Italians deployed there were really over matched.

MarkAMorin Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2019 9:34 a.m. PST

Thanks and yes, the 47/32 did get sent to the Eastern front from what I understand. I have used the Italians M13/40 in an Eastern front scenario ahistorically, but now I can sent the unwashed Semovente. T-34 crews must have loved going up against Italian armor.

Legion 416 Feb 2019 10:01 a.m. PST

It would be more like target practice than a tank on tank engagement … evil grin

MarkAMorin Supporting Member of TMP18 Feb 2019 12:34 p.m. PST

True Legion!

Murvihill18 Feb 2019 4:07 p.m. PST

If the Italians used them shoot-and-scoot it wouldn't be too bad. The Russians had T-70's too.

Legion 418 Feb 2019 4:49 p.m. PST

But they had a whole lot of T-34s, KV-1s, etc., etc., too … evil grin

MarkAMorin Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2019 4:57 p.m. PST

Shoot them in the back!

von Schwartz05 May 2019 6:25 p.m. PST

Looks really nice, but what is the white stuff and where can I get some?

MarkAMorin Supporting Member of TMP05 May 2019 6:42 p.m. PST

The poster tack? Michael's! or Amazon: link

Mark 106 May 2019 11:43 a.m. PST

As far as the Italians on the Russian front, it always surprised be a bit, they never deployed any of their "best" AFV there. No M13/40s ever were deployed.

They never deployed their armored divisions to the Russian Front. So the M13/40s and M14/41s never went.

They did deploy "Fast" Divisions and Cavalry Divisions to the Russian Front. So L3/35s, L6/40s and Semoventi 47s went.

I am not entirely surprised that they didn't deploy their armored divisions. Quite aside from the threat of T-34s and KV-1s (which wargamers appreciate), their logistics were precarious at best. Armored divisions eat log at a prodigious rate, which is not often quite as easily appreciated by wargamers.

What surprises me is that they never deployed any Semoventi 75 batteries. I would think these were small enough units (mostly independent batteries AIUI), that seem to have performed quite well in infantry support roles.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

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