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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse09 Feb 2019 4:04 p.m. PST

… on the Planet?

"One of the more powerful compact pistols on the market, the Ruger SR40c combines a discrete size with the Smith & Wesson .40 caliber handgun cartridge. Invented by the Federal Bureau of Investigation after an infamous shootout, the cartridge is meant to provide additional power over more traditional medium handgun calibers.

The 1986 Miami shootout was a watershed moment for law enforcement firepower. The incident pitched two criminals armed with a rifle and shotgun against FBI agents with service firearms. The gun battle, for which the agents were unprepared, was an extended one which saw 140 rounds by both sides. Both criminals were killed, but at the cost of many lives. Two FBI agents died and four other people were wounded during the gun battle. The two criminals were repeatedly struck by bullets but fought on despite their injuries…."
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Personal logo mrwigglesworth Supporting Member of TMP09 Feb 2019 8:06 p.m. PST

Bleeped text I say!

bsrlee09 Feb 2019 11:46 p.m. PST

The writer is in need of a proof reader.

The article is basically a marketing blurb for Ruger, nice pistol but nothing extraordinary.

Oberlindes Sol LIC10 Feb 2019 2:19 a.m. PST

The 1986 Miami Shootout is the subject of a movie that I saw on television a long time ago.

If the movie is at all accurate, the FBI agents were completely unprepared for an actual firefight. They didn't put their body armor on properly, didn't use cover and concealment, and didn't attempt to fix and flank the enemy.

Weapon size and type seemed to have been of little importance. Two trained and determined criminals with the same handguns as the FBI could have probably achieved the same result.

The FBI, to its credit, learned from the 1986 Miami Shootout and improved its training in tactics, weapons, and equipment.

Katzbalger10 Feb 2019 8:06 a.m. PST

A great analysis of the Miami shootout--and where some of the lessons may have been…somewhat wrong.

YouTube link

As for the SR40--eh. Nothing special--there's plenty of .40 S&W concealable pistols out in the market. Essentially, most modern pistols in 9mm P also have versions in .40.


CorroPredo10 Feb 2019 8:27 a.m. PST

Funny- police departments are now going back to 9mm because new rounds are supposed to be equivalent of the .40 with less recoil. Seems like day late and dollar short. But- if you want to find out about guns, don't go to a gun site, not the National Interest.

Oberlindes Sol LIC10 Feb 2019 10:52 a.m. PST

Also, the FBI returned to 9mm a few years ago:


Choctaw10 Feb 2019 1:11 p.m. PST

The service weapon I carry on duty and off is chambered in 40 S&W. I don't consider the recoil of the 40 to be excessive. I work with a retired FBI agent and she carries a 10mm. She said Miami was about more than calibers. It emphasized the agents glaring lack of fighting skills.

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