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Anton Ryzbak06 Feb 2019 3:09 p.m. PST


A friend of mine just acquired a vast lot of ancient miniatures. They are such antiquity that I can't identify most of them. If any of you Old-School guys recognize them please give me a shout.

Thanks in advance link

P.S. we pried a few off of the bases looking for a manufacturer's identity but none had any.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP06 Feb 2019 4:04 p.m. PST

Oh, dear. The early 1970's have come again. I'm afraid the term "recast" would cover quite a few of them, but I could be mistaken. And I believe Spencer Smith in the UK is selling indulgences.
The 28mm French Line Lancers are Johansen, I think.
the "large slim 28mm" French in bearskin are almost surely Scruby 30's.
The "slim 28mm 1806 Prussians" would be Command Post, I'm almost sure.
I think that unit of French legere running with one leg in the air is Scruby, but Command Post had a similar pose.
For the rest, Staddens have square bases with rounded corners--fairly thin on an original--while Suren "Willies" run thicker and round. From memory, the French in overcoat and the British line are Staddens and the Blucher figure is a Suren.

Worth remembering that it was a very different market, and it was by no means uncommon to modify and recast an original figure because no one made the figure you needed--as in it was impossible to buy a decent quality Russian in coal scuttle shako or Bavarian in Raupenhelm.

I am not commenting on morality or legality, you understand. I'm just trying to explain why you might see a Stadden or Suren figure with a head you won't find in any catalog. No names, no pack drill.

Who died, by the way? I knew a fair number of people who owned "vast lots of ancient miniatures" and the basing looks CLS-ish.

khanscom06 Feb 2019 6:49 p.m. PST

Agree that the French legere look like a Scruby casting. The Spanish swordwmen might also be Scruby 1" figures done before the "battery- cast" figures.

Anton Ryzbak06 Feb 2019 8:17 p.m. PST

The original owner was a friend of one of the fellows that run Spartacon in Flint Michigan. He acquired them to help out his buddy's widow (there were a large number of 54mm figures that were the target of his interest) and is dispensing with the items that are surplus to his needs. It looks like the battalions run 30-48 figures depending on nationality.

Glengarry506 Feb 2019 8:48 p.m. PST

That pair of meduim 28mm Renaissance period looking horsemen in blue there? Well, I don't know about them but I just painted that horse on the right, only he was being ridden by a 16th centary Korean! It's been speculated the horse is an old Essex figure.

BillyNM06 Feb 2019 10:40 p.m. PST

I do like the look of these Scruby figures, does anyone know where images of the ranges can be found?

Codsticker06 Feb 2019 11:23 p.m. PST

Hey Anton, you might ne able to get some help from Ross at Battle Game of The Month. He uses old school minis and has a collection of Scruby 30mm I believe. He might be able to identify some of them.

Vintage Wargaming06 Feb 2019 11:34 p.m. PST

A few years ago I was looking into this and it was very difficult to find photos of Scruby figures on line.

As a result I put quite a few images on line on my Old Metal Detector blog here:


And also on Vintage Wargaming here


Where there was a screenshow which I have just noticed has unfortunately fallen victim to Photobucket changes

gisbygeo07 Feb 2019 7:48 a.m. PST

Pic 3 and 19 Prince August homecast, and I think 13 too.

Pic 16 appears to be Hinchliffe.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP07 Feb 2019 8:34 a.m. PST


Here are pictures of six 1970s 1" Scruby Napoleonics. link You might be able to make some comparisons with them to some of your treasure trove.


Anton Ryzbak07 Feb 2019 4:34 p.m. PST

Thanks everybody, at least I now know where to start looking.

ron skirmisher08 Feb 2019 6:44 p.m. PST

I Have over 100 painted Plains Indians -- Foot & Mounted
and ??? 30 US Cavalry -- mostly Dismounted I would like
to find a Home for --- I think they are 1970's Scruby or
SAE -- could be some of Both. They are 30mm ?? -- any
interested folks email me at paint
jobs ?? Fair to Good for Wargaming.
I could send any interested persons a sample for free
to keep.

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