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Ninjabread04 Feb 2019 5:25 a.m. PST

I love doctors. And I love Space Marines. Put them together, and you get Doctor Space Marines, dispensing healthcare and the Emperor's justice across the battlefields of the 41st millennium.

Brother Herophilus on the Nemesis Chapter battlelines.

Here's the 2017 Primaris Apothecary alongside his very own primogenitor the very first Apothecary miniature Games Workshop produced back in 1987. Oh, how far miniature design has come in thirty years.

"Here child, have this necklace."

The Primaris Apothcary is absolutely loaded with so much detail he crosses the line from miniature into micro-diorama. He stands over a fallen Battle Brother, having removed the progenoid glands, and every surface is festooned with details like cannisters, helix motifs, lenses and surgical tools. However, I have become obsessed with one detail the mysterious skull strapped to his arse.

"Dad, your bum is looking at me."

During the long evenings of painting, I came up with my own backstory about who this skull belonged to…

"Ultracurses. Thus I die."

The Rogue Trader Apothecary came from Rochie of Buried Under Lead. Rochie has converted and painted up this mini already you should check it out here. Thanks for the gift, Rochie!

If you'd like to learn how to paint white exactly like this, I took super-detailed stage-by-stage photos on the Ninjabread Patreon, and have written up the method, colours and theory.


A twelve-step tutorial teaching twelve steps to crisp white armour.

On top of this tutorial, patrons get instant access to the whole six month back catalogue with five more masterclasses covering other colours of power armour, cloth and my Golden Demon winning piece.

I'm really keen on collecting more Apothecaries now, and am taken by the idea of one with a Crimson Fists one with a bike or jump pack with "Fist Responder" armour graffiti.

Brother Rochfort supporting the improvised Crimson Fists defences./

The sheet-metal walls you can see above are a preview casting of a Fogou Models terrain set that's coming soon! Keep your eyes peeled!

Coming soon: even more Space Marines, old and new!

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Mister Tibbles04 Feb 2019 5:42 a.m. PST

Woah, talk about scale creep!

John Leahy Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2019 8:42 a.m. PST

Not scale creep. Scale LEEP!

15mm and 28mm Fanatik04 Feb 2019 12:15 p.m. PST

Same difference if you take a pic of a Primaris marine and an old "Beakie" side-by-side:


victor0leto04 Feb 2019 1:14 p.m. PST

I already said this on Twitter, but it bears repeating here. These are obviously just mock ups of posters for an upcoming

Kevin heart
Dwayne Johnson

buddy film set in the 40k universe

hijinks shall be had.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik04 Feb 2019 2:48 p.m. PST

These are obviously just mock ups of posters for an upcoming Kevin Hart Dwayne Johnson buddy film set in the 40k universe.

Or this one.


The H Man04 Feb 2019 5:23 p.m. PST

Yes. Scale creep.

One is hand cast Metal from a mould made from a hand sculpted master by some talented chap.

The other is machine cast plastic from a presumable cg master engineered by some one who would rather be playing some computer game or other (I would love to be wrong on this one).

No contest for me.

If they were the same size, the details would be more in line. Its like comparing 28 to 54mm. Of course 54 is usually more detailed, it's bigger! Inquisitor figures were (mostly) more detailed also, as they were bigger. Plus, being metal they had the option of having undercuts, some thing hips cannot (it's metal mould cannot bend, unlike silicon used to cast alloy).

Lion in the Stars04 Feb 2019 7:17 p.m. PST

Fluffwise, the Primaris Marines are a head taller than their predecessors.

But the Primaris are honestly 'truescale Marines', since even the 3rd Edition plastic Marines were a head taller than the RTB01 Beakies.

Aethelflaeda was framed05 Feb 2019 6:31 a.m. PST

Going rococo is not always a virtue. I prefer the spartan look of the older figure.

BaldLea05 Feb 2019 3:50 p.m. PST

But the Primaris are honestly 'truescale Marines',

They were never supposed to be that big.

The H Man06 Feb 2019 4:17 a.m. PST


Not sure how big the squares are supposed to be. Any ideas?

Lion in the Stars06 Feb 2019 12:00 p.m. PST

Judging by numbers and size of Jess, squares are 12".

Yup, regular Astartes were supposed to be ~7ft tall. (Count up from the bottom, there are only 7 lines, not the 8' height shown)

Aethelflaeda was framed06 Feb 2019 5:27 p.m. PST

The square's unit is a "head". Standard anatomical proportions guide. I suppose eldar defy the standard.

The H Man07 Feb 2019 4:35 a.m. PST

I assume you mean that the head is a common measuring device.

You are correct-ish regarding the poster. However it is not head size, it is helmet sized. Remember the marine is in a suit of armour, thus he is actually smaller than the armour.

Ninjabread19 Feb 2019 4:53 a.m. PST

Uuuuh … I never noticed that about the squares not starting at 0'. Thanks Lion!

chromedog03 Mar 2019 1:55 a.m. PST

12" platform soles on their boots.

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