"trojan war opinions" Topic

Would the victrix unarmored hoplites look outrageous for a Trojan War game? I prefer to avoid the "guy in a diaper with a sword" look of some dedicated trojan war figs.

If you went the Hollywood look for the Trojan War, for sure. IMHO that's a legitimate approach in regards to what ranges to use.

#1, the only person you have to please is yourself.

#2, I will do my best to not quibble over "unarmored hoplite". I understand that's what Victrix called them, but "hoplite" is nearly synonymous with heavy armor. Technically it just refers to the shield, but generally it means the greaves and breastplate.

#3, the hoplon – the big round shield – says "classical era" to me, so it looks out of place. But maybe that's just me.

#4, if you google Trojan War you will see endless classical depictions, and virtually all we know about the war comes from classical sources, who, of course, portrayed it as classical warfare. So using classical figures for what was actually a pre-dark age war will put you in good company.

#5, you can just say you're playing the Iliad, since that's pretty much what you're doing anyway.

#6, I see what you mean about the diapers.

Not correct, but certainly up to you. The authentic stuff is sooooo cool, I don't know why anyone would not play it, personally.

My Trojan War stuff:
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And look at this:
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I'd go with Foundry Trojan and Myceneans or Redoubt however I have heard getting Redoubt from the company has been dicey. The Pics from above links are Redoubt if I am not mistaken, great figures.

Technically, hoplon basically means "gear, tool, equipment"; the big round shield is specifically an aspis.

Hoplitai means in effect "heavy infantry", and is used of many troop types that moderns wouldn't call "hoplites", and who aren't necessarily wearing much if any armour.

Foundry miniatures are superb for the period, bug equally classical 5th century miniatures would work, although not correct

I don't understand deliberately going out of your way to use the wrong figures when there are superb ranges out there.

Beautiful work, OneHuaiTicket!

I do think there is much room for Hollywoodization with the period

I like the option of playing Iliad. (fantasy gaming?)
A war in which Gods and goddesses meddled,and which may or may not have happened is a bit tricky to nail down.

Classical Greeks tend to portray the combatants as naked guys with unusually shaped shields, so you wouldn't be the first to take artistic liberties.

Agreed on the realistic guys. For decades fantasy artists used images of horned barbarians, ancient kingdoms with heavy bronze armour and plumed helmets and yet the Mycenaean period is the real thing.

Sir Stanley Baker stepping down from his chariot, in "Helen of Troy". I ain't been right since I saw that movie back in the 50's, Historical accuracy went right out the door.