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FeWolf22 Jan 2019 1:55 p.m. PST

Been gaming for some 30 years and a ton of game systems but took a 10 year break. Panzer is my number 1 game to play, but I was looking for another game that is similar, ie, different hit location, tracks, turret, hull, etc… have checked out FoW, Bolt Action and such, and they are just alittle to simple for me
Looking for:
Focus on Tank Battles
Able to run 6mm minis, I have USSR and Germany forces, or covert to hex based or 6mm scale,
Chits/Markers are ok, like Panzer,
Tactical, ie 1:1 preferred for AFV
if a sample rules set is available would be awesome
1to 2 players, my wife is interested in playing also, she is a keeper and visiting buddies.
Current games I have:Panzer both board and Minis,Mein Panzer, Schwere Kompanie ,Tank Charts,Panzer War
Thank You for you help and input :)

Dexter Ward22 Jan 2019 2:20 p.m. PST

Battlefront:WW2 ticks most of your boxes. Not 1:1 scale for vehicles.
Also Squad Leader in Miniature

nickinsomerset22 Jan 2019 2:36 p.m. PST

Panzermarsch, if it still available ticks the boxes for tank combat,

Tally Ho!

RudyNelson22 Jan 2019 2:41 p.m. PST

Send me an email and I will send you the old file on our WW2 tank rules. We used with both 6mm and 10mm. Fire! Goon! Freur!

Desert Fox22 Jan 2019 4:13 p.m. PST

The old Tank Charts sounds like it is suitably crunchy enough for you.

khanscom22 Jan 2019 7:03 p.m. PST

Maybe try converting AH's "Tobruk" to minis?

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Jan 2019 7:56 p.m. PST

Just play Panzer with miniatures.

FeWolf23 Jan 2019 2:17 a.m. PST

Extra Crispy, I already do,

Game can be Hex/Counter base also

Dexter Ward23 Jan 2019 2:48 a.m. PST

If you want a hex/counter game at this scale, then Squad Leader, Advanced Squad Leader or Combat Commander all fit.

Dynaman878923 Jan 2019 4:54 a.m. PST

Look for Schwere Kompanie. There is a lite version online. Crunchy tank rules without being as complex as Panzer or Panzer War.

Thresher0123 Jan 2019 9:40 a.m. PST

Tractics (quite old, and OOP, but pops up on eBay from time to time).

One of the first rules sets on the subject, and quite good, as I recall.

Gives you the crunchiness you seek.

Battleground too, which are still available from Syr Hobbs. Google it, and I'm sure it'll pop up. You'll want the Tanker's Challenge supplement too.

FeWolf23 Jan 2019 10:20 a.m. PST

Thresher01, Thx checking it out , reviews seem pretty good, and price is not bad, on buy list,Battleground WW2, Tractics is really procey even on eBay, 199.00 :(

Dynaman8789, Already have it

Dexter Ward, I watched a review and game play of ASL SK#3, is on my buy list, and after looking around I can pick up alot of ASL boards cheap!

nickinsomerset, can not find to much about it, but what I can is interesting

ashauace697023 Jan 2019 11:04 a.m. PST

Battalions in Crisis

Walking Sailor23 Jan 2019 3:03 p.m. PST

If it's been 10 years, are you playing the old Yaquinto Panzer/ 88/ Armor, or the new GMT Panzer/MBT?

FeWolf23 Jan 2019 3:37 p.m. PST

Walking Sailor. got back in, Playing Panzer GMT and Panzer Mini, and Excaliber Games Version, now that I got back in in 11/2018.
But before that ASL, SL, CinC, PanzerKampfe, Tank Charts, Star Fleet Battle, Sea Kreig, Tank War, Command Decision, actually what got me back in, I was cleaning out my bins and found my micro armor and some old rules, and I am now retired.

Dynaman878923 Jan 2019 4:51 p.m. PST

Sorry – read right past SK on your list. So many have never heard of it. I don't think there is a less complex rules set with hit location like SK out there. You could look at the Lock N Load Tactical line of board games which is also ASL lite in many respects. I switched to it recently as a break from ASL.

coopman23 Jan 2019 5:21 p.m. PST

Are you aware that GMT Games put out a new version of PANZER a couple of years ago?

FeWolf23 Jan 2019 9:53 p.m. PST

coopman, yes I am, I am using 2015/16 printing,I bought them 11/2018.
I ran into the Blog, Tiger vs t34, does some great reviews and mechanics of the games, of 5 different game systems link

Mark 128 Jan 2019 7:11 p.m. PST

If you find that you like Tank Charts at all, I suggest you look at Panzer War.

It is similar in many ways. But it has seen 20+ years of development since it's first version, while Tank Charts has not progressed from it's 1990ish publication.

You will find at least as much detail in Panzer War, but backed by research that is both deeper and broader -- better information on armor thicknesses of each aspect of each tank, better information on the guns and each ammo type that might have been available, and more tanks … lots more tanks!

And it plays better than Tank Charts. The game mechanisms move more smoothly, with fewer die rolls, fewer tables to consult, for each event.

See our current thread on AT Gun Tables ( TMP link ) for the level of research that backs the Panzer War rules -- in-depth information and analysis that is always being updated.

I am a BIG fan (in case you hadn't guessed) if for no other reason than I really like good research, and these rules are VERY well researched. Even if you never play a game with Panzer War, you will find it is an amazing assemblage of statistics on WW2 armored vehicles.

Kudos to Mobius (of this forum), who has authored these rules, and maintained them, and offered them to the gaming community.

(aka: Mk 1)

Marcus Maximus11 Nov 2019 6:23 a.m. PST

Firefly if you can get hold of it – armour ratings, gun calibres, penetration factors, rate of fire, etc played it with my 1/300 scale WW2 tanks for years before selling all including the 2 x 2ft fully modelled modular terrain boards (I use to submit kits into the IPMS many moons ago….) to one very happy buyer.

UshCha18 Nov 2019 2:53 p.m. PST

There is us Maneouver Group on Wargames Vault. You will need your books on WWII tanks to create the specs for other than a few main vehicles, however it's simple and based on real world data. It works very well for tanks, Hull and turret hit locations AND you get the limitations of view depending on turret facing and buttoned and un-buttoned. It works happily with a company a side of tanks and with a bit of practice a few more.

It does not have a points system, I have never seen one that works with real terrain layouts.

If you think it may be of interest, look at the free stuff first, if that not the sort of thing you want then it's not for you.
PS it's 1 to 1 for AFV's.

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