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Nick B22 Jan 2019 4:54 a.m. PST

I'm just building some vehicles for a Normandy game and realised I wasn't sure how to model the Churchill with fascine – which was held on the front of the tank.

Was the fascine carrier frame fixed? or was it detached and dumped when the fascine was deployed? Was the turret permenantly unable to rotate forwards leaving an approx. 90degree blind spot for the petard?

I appreciate hat the tank could still fire broadside but would this be the only option when firing – thus presenting a flank shot?

Many thanks

batesmotel34 Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2019 5:17 a.m. PST

I believe the turret functioned normally with full 360 degree rotation once the fascine was deployed.

Chris

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2019 9:12 a.m. PST

This bit of 'Tank Chats' https://youtu.be/fwCgEn48Bn8?t=134 may hepl.

x42

Nick B22 Jan 2019 9:43 a.m. PST

Thanks X42 – that's really helpful (and a generally interesting program as well!).

Still not entirely sure. The model I have has the first type of frame (like a ski slope). I can see how the second type would easily accomodate moving the gun back to the forward position but not certain about the first type once it has fallen back into its original position.

I wonder if the second type of frame was made to deal with this issue.

I love the film of the tank commanders perched on top of the fascine! I wouldn't like to do that when just driving over the countryside never mind being up there whilst under fire!

Thanks again – great help

shaun from s and s models Supporting Member of TMP23 Jan 2019 1:59 a.m. PST

the view ahead for the driver was very restricted and the commander had to look out over the top of turret to direct him.
they seemed to get near to the obstacle and then drive blind right to it and drop the fascine, the cradle could then be dropped at the same place or later, most film shows it just falling off after the fascine.
this system does seem to work best not under fire though.
as far as i can tell only one tuype of cradle was actualy used.
the turret could not fire forward when the fascine was carried.
this may help and shows the explosive charge used to let the fascine roll,
YouTube link

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