| WeeSparky | 21 Jan 2019 2:31 p.m. PST |
I have a quick question as to an interpretation of the rules. In the Army book for Great Britain, the Ordinance QF 6 pound is listed as a medium AT gun (making it NOT transportable behind a jeep). It is an option for airborne forces though, but it is still a medium AT gun, but the description states that airborne units had a variation of that system with a smaller gunshield and mounted on a different carriage that allowed it to be towed behind a jeep. I have searched the errata and faqs I could find online, but I have not found anything for the airborne specific 6pd gun being able to be towed by a jeep. Does the fluff in the weapons description count as "rules" allowing an airborne force to tow the gun behind a jeep, or are the rules interpreted entirely on semantics, which states that jeeps cannot tow a medium AT gun? |
79thPA  | 21 Jan 2019 2:58 p.m. PST |
If it is listed as an option, I would say that that is the rule. It is fact that airborne 6pdrs were towed by jeeps. There is really nothing to discuss. |
| Bellbottom | 21 Jan 2019 5:16 p.m. PST |
There are existing photographs of jeeps towing 6 pdr guns at Arnhem. Both jeeps and guns were modified to fit into gliders. |
| Bellbottom | 21 Jan 2019 5:24 p.m. PST |
see a fine cut down airborne 6pdr anti-tank gun here
TMP link |
| Thresher01 | 21 Jan 2019 5:32 p.m. PST |
The US 57mm A/T gun, which is the equivalent, weighs in at 2,100 lbs.. On good roads and in decent conditions, I suspect it could be done, though normally a halftrack or other heavier vehicle would tow A/T guns instead. |
| Bellbottom | 21 Jan 2019 6:23 p.m. PST |
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| WeeSparky | 21 Jan 2019 7:48 p.m. PST |
Ok, let me rephrase the question a little. While playing a game of Bolt Action, would a player be able to tow a medium AT gun with a Jeep? Is there any errata or official ruling stating that this is allowed (per the ruleset). |
| Thresher01 | 21 Jan 2019 10:28 p.m. PST |
I read that the US 3" A/T gun weighs in at around 5,000 lbs., or so, so needed ten men to man-handle it in the field. Sure, on paved roads that are flat, and well maintained, I suspect you could. Going up hills, cross-country, or through mud would be very doubtful, since the jeep is a 1/4 ton "truck", so is rated for 500 lbs.. |
| Martin Rapier | 22 Jan 2019 12:29 a.m. PST |
As noted above, in real life jeeps towed 6pdrs. I really couldn't give a fig if some set of rules says you can't. |
| Dexter Ward | 22 Jan 2019 5:57 a.m. PST |
The 3" AT gun is a much bigger gun than the 57mm/6pdr.
The 'lightened' 6 pdr guns used by Airborne troops could be towed by jeeps. |
| Thresher01 | 22 Jan 2019 10:14 p.m. PST |
True, but the 3" weapons is a "medium AT gun", mentioned by WeeSparky. |
| Bellbottom | 24 Jan 2019 4:43 a.m. PST |
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| Fred Cartwright | 26 Jan 2019 1:13 p.m. PST |
True, but the 3" weapons is a "medium AT gun", mentioned by WeeSparky. It may be a "medium" AT gun in Bolt Action, but in real life was bl**dy heavy. Probably the heaviest, most unwieldy gun in its class. The German Pak 40 and Soviet 76mm were significantly lighter. |
bases up the start of his 1:72 scale WWII Russians.