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Prince Alberts Revenge18 Jan 2019 5:21 p.m. PST

I'm trying to figure out the best way to base my 10mm French revolutionary army. Each base will represent a battalion, but I am unsure how common the converging of French Grenadiers was during the War of the First Coalition. Paddy Griffith states that they could be detached from the battalion and were sometimes converged to form a separate "division" within the demi-brigade and also converged to form an entire battalion. Were converged French grenadier battalions a common occurrence? Just trying to figure out the best way to represent these little Bleeped texts on the tabletop.

von Schwartz18 Jan 2019 6:21 p.m. PST

See! See! they did it here too!!! That stupid auto-bleep again that's been dogging me! We know what the word is, starts with bug, ends in ger, right? What is so bleepable about that word? I've seen posts with much more objectionable language without them being "bleeped".

Sorry, that hit a nerve with me.

Chad4719 Jan 2019 2:18 a.m. PST

Battalions were 9 companies one of which was Grenadiers. I just organise my battalions as 18 figures. This allows me to detach 2 figures per battalion as combined Grenadiers. Those battalions would then be 16 figures each. I have no information as to the strength of those combined battalions in the field, but I suppose they could have been fewer than 8 companies

Prince of Essling19 Jan 2019 3:23 a.m. PST

Have glanced at over 30 OoBs from Nafziger and converged battalions are not commonly listed. Therefore some examples:

Battle of Valmy:
Armee du Nord
1st Brigade of the Advance Guard had 1 battalion;
2nd Brigade of the Right Division had 1 converged grenadier/chasseur battalion;
2nd Brigade of the Left Division had 1 converged grenadier/chasseur battalion;
Armee du Centre
1 company in the Advance guard;
4 grenadier battalions in the Reserve Division;

Armee du Nord May 1794
1 battalion Division Moreau (31 officers 871 other ranks);
1 battalion Division Souham (9 companies 25 off 779 or);

Army of Italy 19 June 1795:
4th, 13th & 10th grenadier battalions in Division du Centre (451, 469 & 509 men respectively);
1st, 6th, 7th, 3rd, 14th, 9th, 11th & 5th (4 companies) grenadier battalions in the Right Wing (459, 531, 531, 244, 526, 490 & 539 men respectively)


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Chad4719 Jan 2019 4:28 a.m. PST

This from Digby Smith's Data Book

Florennes. 23/5/92. 3/4 btn
Menin. 17/6/92. 1 btn
Coutray. 18/6/92. 1 btn
Harlebeke. 23/6/92. 5 btns
Fontoy 19/8/92. 2 coys
Valmy. Armed du Nord 6 btns
Armed du Centre. 6 btns
Spyer 30/9/92 Armee du Rhin 3 btns
Latour. 22/10/92. Armed du Ardennes 3 btns
Jemappes 6/11/92. 2 btns
Namur. 6/11/92. Armed des Ardennes 4 btns
Antwerp. 29/11/92. Armed du Nord. 4 btns
OOB Armee de la Moselle December 1792. 5 buns

I also noticed that in some cases listed above the Grenadiers are shown with a battalion number suggesting that these may be more permanent combined units from specific line regiments similar to the Austrians.

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