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grahambeyrout10 Jan 2019 5:30 a.m. PST

I note that the "greens" for the new Hesse-Darmstadt 10mm range by Pendraken for the 1809 Austrian Campaign have artillerymen in bicornes. I am a bit puzzled, the general consensus seems to have artillery in shakos. Rawkins says that distribution of shakos to the artillery started in 1807 and was complete by 1808. The 1809 Knotel plate shows shakos and John Gills "With Eagles to Glory" also states the use of shakos. In contrast I can find no references to bicornes .
I would welcome advice.

Prince of Essling10 Jan 2019 8:30 a.m. PST

The answer you want probably lies within "Geschichte des Großherzoglich Hessischen Feld-Artillerie-Regiments Nr. 25 (Großherzogliches Artilleriekorps) und seiner Stämme 1460-1883" by Fritz BECK,
Verlag: Berlin Verlag Ernst Siegfried Mittler & Sohn, 1884

but cannot find a downloadable copy to consult:

Das Großherzoglich hessische Artilleriekorps
in den napoleonischen Kriegen at link suggests that the shako was introduced during 1809 for privates, NCOs and musicians with officers only getting the shako in 1816. Unteroffiziere und Musiker

Prince of Essling10 Jan 2019 3:19 p.m. PST

See post by Markus Stein on Napoleon Series at link which hints at shako…..(nice picture of 1813/14 artillerymen with the comment "…the text states that the uniforms of 1809 for the artillery had only minor changes until 1820. "

Zippee11 Jan 2019 6:29 a.m. PST

We specifically wanted the Hessian and Saxon 1809 ranges to be suitable for 1806-1809, rather than 1809-14.

1809 has always suffered from being right in the middle of everyone's uniform and organisational transition.

A choice was made.

It's the same reason the Saxons have the 1806 style side-slung backpacks, when they should really have proper backpacks for 1809 but that would be really niche.

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