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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2019 6:36 p.m. PST

Limbering up to hit the tartans again, but the mystery of the gun colors remains.
1) What's the current best guess on French and British gun colors in 1745?
2) Have we ANY direct evidence on Jacobite gun colors? Memoirs? Paintings? Orders? Or is it all a matter of "these guns were captured from the British and therefore must be X, while these guns were shipped from France and therefore must be Y"?

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2019 7:03 p.m. PST


This from Kronoskaf on French Artillery:

At the beginning of the XVIIIth century, French artillery carriages were probably red as were the gun carriages of the French Marine Royale. However, by the time of the Seven Years' War, gun carriages of the French army were blue to distinguish them from the equipment of the supply train (caissons and carts), painted brick red. Furthermore, canvas used with artillery equipment were usually decorated with a device consisting of two crossed cannon (in saltire) with a crowned "A" or "AA". The change to blue occurred very soon after the Vallière reform of 1732, even though the precise date is unknown. More details are available in the aforementioned article.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2019 6:30 a.m. PST

For the Brits I would guess bluish-gray carriages with black painted ironwork

historygamer15 Jan 2019 6:24 a.m. PST

The British guns would be grey, but how much of the ironwork is painted black vs grey is a question.

The Morier paintings would suggest that much of the ironwork was painted grey (not bluish grey, but grey):




So much so that the past director of Fort Ligonier repainted all of the guns there grey:

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