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24 Dec 2018 6:09 p.m. PST
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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian24 Dec 2018 6:09 p.m. PST

…play miniature wargames in any scale below 15mm. (Or so said one of our readers.)

Do you agree?

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2018 6:31 p.m. PST

No. "This is ridiculous."

By the way, I also love playing board games, so offering that as some dire choice is equally ridiculous.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2018 6:39 p.m. PST

No, we use 6mm or 1:285 for WW2 microarmor games and I've played 6mm SYW before.

Jim

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2018 6:40 p.m. PST

a wargame is a wargame. Miniatures are fun and have pageantry.. a boardgame if well done is also fun and for heaven's sake, imagination takes over and supplies the troops.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Dec 2018 6:43 p.m. PST

Did he want to say "above 15mm" ?
Then it is true.. ;-)

Stryderg24 Dec 2018 6:47 p.m. PST

Stock answer:
…sniff a Wookie's under arm.

BrockLanders24 Dec 2018 6:55 p.m. PST

False. 10mm is perfect for large WW2 games

Bashytubits24 Dec 2018 7:32 p.m. PST

The older I get the more I am into smaller scales, faster to paint up. Easier to paint, storage is much less of a hassle and the wargamers dream, it is much cheaper to boot.

Winston Smith24 Dec 2018 8:09 p.m. PST

"One of our readers" is nuts.

KSmyth24 Dec 2018 8:36 p.m. PST

Hey it's not my first choice, but I'd certainly try it if offered. I too love board games, but they're not the same. Minis is minis and board games is board games.

oldnorthstate24 Dec 2018 8:45 p.m. PST

Absolutely…anything smaller than 15mm is not worth the effort.

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2018 9:24 p.m. PST

On second thought……..

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Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2018 9:39 p.m. PST

That's a narrow-minded attitude. No naval games, OGRE, starships, etc.?

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2018 10:01 p.m. PST

sorry lad…'ere you go:

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And compare your cardboard tiddlywink with this :

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and this is all in good fun. Happy Holiday.

Calico Bill24 Dec 2018 10:26 p.m. PST

No. Some of the best games I've ever played were 6mm.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP25 Dec 2018 2:12 a.m. PST

Me for the little people! Matting Baccus 6mm this morning, and the Ogre Big Box of Miniatures is wrapped and under the tree.

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP25 Dec 2018 4:13 a.m. PST

Once I got into the miniatures wargaming world, I found I was missing the sight of the minis when I played a board game. I play few board games and that may be why.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP25 Dec 2018 5:34 a.m. PST

No.

21eRegt25 Dec 2018 5:49 a.m. PST

Haven't played a board game except chess for 50 years and have no intention of changing. So I'd rather do ANY miniatures game over a board game.

Dynaman878925 Dec 2018 5:51 a.m. PST

From the other side of the fence, no miniatures setup is going to top this.

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Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP25 Dec 2018 6:43 a.m. PST

I quit board games and sold them all years ago.

Reading a book would be more fun to me.

Tom

Allen57 Supporting Member of TMP25 Dec 2018 8:50 a.m. PST

I wont say that I would rather play a boardgame but while I have 2, 3, and 6mm miniatures there are areas/battles which lend themselves to boardgames. I have lots of them as well as many miniatures. Each provide enjoyment and have their place and time. Each to his own.

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP25 Dec 2018 9:14 a.m. PST

There are great 6mm miniatures out there.

https://www.microworldgames.com

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP25 Dec 2018 9:51 a.m. PST

back at you Dynaman8789 all in good fun ( I cut my teeth on Tactics II)

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23rdFusilier25 Dec 2018 10:22 a.m. PST

It's all good, man.

oldnorthstate25 Dec 2018 2:57 p.m. PST

Problem with most of those pictures is they are not a lesser scale than 15mm, some of the nicer ones look to be 28mm, and for those that are a smaller scale, yes, they look very nice, but they are the exception rather than the rule. I will admit that the naval games probably lend themselves to the smaller scale, as do the air games, but not land battles.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Dec 2018 5:44 p.m. PST

I agree. That TMP member would rather play boardgames than play wargames in any scale below 15mm.

Dynaman878925 Dec 2018 6:04 p.m. PST

Nashville. Nice but not better

benglish26 Dec 2018 6:17 a.m. PST

Dynaman8789 – what game board did you post? Looks familiar but can't place the title.

Sgt Slag26 Dec 2018 6:29 a.m. PST

I'll play any scale mini's game. I will also play most boardgames. No issues with any game, so long as casualties are involved. Nuclear War, anyone?… Bueller? Bueller?… Cheers!

USAFpilot26 Dec 2018 8:18 a.m. PST

Two different questions being asked. One has to do with scale, and one has to do with board games. Why not just ask "what is the smallest scale you are willing to play?". And "do you perfer board games over miniature table top games?".

Of course one has to ask the question, what defines a board game versus a miniature wargame. Is Commands & Colors a board game or a wargame? What if you play it with miniatures? Certainly there is a big difference in miniature games played on some type of grid which creates discrete movement; versus the highly complex movement/maneuver rules of a free flowing tabletop.

Oberlindes Sol LIC26 Dec 2018 10:44 a.m. PST

I'm with 23rdFusilier. I'll play and enjoy any kind of game.

Except chess. I stopped playing chess like 50 years ago.

Legion 427 Dec 2018 8:49 a.m. PST

Some very nice work there guys !

I too like all types of gaming. Albeit some organizational scales work out better on board games.


There are great 6mm miniatures out there.
Very much so. All I do now is 6mm hard Sci-fi[not sci-fantasy!]. And there is a plethora of 6mm out there today ! For just about all periods.

Last Hussar01 Jan 2019 7:29 a.m. PST

Try doing that at 28mm on a 12 foot table

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Legion 401 Jan 2019 7:50 a.m. PST

Nice !!!

Last Hussar01 Jan 2019 12:51 p.m. PST

Couple more games. We do BP but read cm for inches, unit frontages are 120mm not 240mm. Basically put a 10ft by 15ft table onto a 4x6 (1m20 x 1m80).

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That's why I like 10mm.

Sgt Slag15 Jan 2019 10:38 a.m. PST

Just played a 54mm Army Men game on a table 12 feet x 30 feet with a 2-foot gap in the middle, to reach center parts. Not historical, not fantasy. Just a beer and pretzels set of rules. LOVED IT!

I've also played 6mm Command Decision III WW II games. Enjoyed those, too. I'll play anything, any scale, whether board game or miniatures game. The play is the thing, for me. Cheers!

28mm Fanatik22 Jan 2019 2:33 p.m. PST

The gist of the question is: "How small do standard human-sized infantry miniatures have to be before they don't look any better than counter art at a reasonable distance?" The latest hex-and-counter board games like Conflict of Heroes (Academy Games), Old School Tactical (Flying Pig Games), Panzer/MBT (GMT), Heroes of Normandie (Devil Pig Games) and those from the Lock 'n Load Tactical series have excellent artwork on oversized counters or tiles that in many cases look just as good if not better even in 2D than painted miniatures smaller than 15mm because most people can't paint these smaller scales with any appreciable level of detail.

I therefore have to agree with the provocative statement of the OP somewhat because counter artwork can look better than sloppy globs of paint on the really small miniatures. Even if one can paint such small minis with lots of detail, most of us can't appreciate them without looking at them really close. At normal tabletop distance (a few feet away) such details are wasted due to limitations of the human eye. Board game ranges are typically closer due to the smaller size of the game board.

I play 28mm (as you might expect) but also dabble in 15mm (Team Yankee) and 8mm (Adeptus Titanicus), though if the latter included 8mm infantry I would probably find them too small.

Elenderil29 May 2019 5:16 a.m. PST

The thing with smaller scale figures is to paint for mass effect not individual impact. There is no need to add belt buckles and buttons, unless you are desperate to do so.

Take a look at the Baccus 6mm catalogue to see what can be achieved fairly easily. I worked out that each 6mm infantryman (ancients period) takes me about 6 minutes if I'm batch painting. the trick is to concentrate on the things which will pop on the tabletop like shields.

Legion 429 May 2019 7:10 a.m. PST

I put as much detail as I can in my 6mm. Even if only I know it's there. Not desperate … just the way I do it. evil grin

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Board games have a lot of utility based on the size and type if game/battle you are playing. Generally other that Tactical, board games are very useful, etc.

UshCha05 Aug 2019 8:41 p.m. PST

I'd rather play a boargame than play 28mm. I'm not keen on Boargames but 28mm is WAY TO BIG to play a serious game. You struggle to get a machine gun to operate at full range without a HUGE table or fantasy rules, which to me defeats the point of wargamingt.

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