Tango01  | 20 Dec 2018 12:13 p.m. PST |
"On 18 December, U.S. President Donald Trump officially ordered the creation of the "Space Command", a new organisational structure within the Pentagon that will have overall control of military space operations. But this command will be separate from Trump's goal to create an entirely new branch of the army called "Space Force", which has not received approval from Congress. "I direct the establishment, consistent with United States law, of United States Space Command as a functional Unified Combatant Command," Mr Trump said in a memo to Defence Secretary Jim Mattis…."
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| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 20 Dec 2018 1:08 p.m. PST |
That's about what I expected from all this talk. A fourth full-fledged service branch equal to the Army, Navy and Air Force is neither warranted nor feasible right now. Sorry, no Starship Troopers for youse guys. |
| Pan Marek | 20 Dec 2018 2:18 p.m. PST |
We have no money for roads and tunnels, food for the poor or medical care.
Its the right time to create another branch of the military. |
| Stryderg | 20 Dec 2018 4:57 p.m. PST |
Oh, we've got plenty of money for all those things. We just elect people who chose to spend it all elsewhere. I found an image of the US budget displayed as agency emblems with each emblem's sized relative to it's percentage of the overall budget. Very enlightening. Just can't find it again. |
| Tango01 | 21 Dec 2018 11:53 a.m. PST |
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| USAFpilot | 21 Dec 2018 1:15 p.m. PST |
I don't really think we need a Space Force at this time. The Air Force wasn't created as a separate branch until 1947, and by that time airplanes had been militarized and used in two world wars. |
| Murvihill | 21 Dec 2018 5:20 p.m. PST |
"I don't really think we need a Space Force at this time. The Air Force wasn't created as a separate branch until 1947, and by that time airplanes had been militarized and used in two world wars."
And that was a mistake too. Shoulda left the airforce in the army. |
| USAFpilot | 21 Dec 2018 6:57 p.m. PST |
Shoulda left the airforce in the army. Certainly a case could be made to have no separate branches of the armed forces, but have everyone wearing the same uniform and under command of one top officer. Of course, the different specialties required to operate the highly technical pieces of equipment would naturally divide the military into different segments. The argument begins to go in circles. |
| Lion in the Stars | 22 Dec 2018 2:32 a.m. PST |
There was a debate about unifying the US military in 1947. The USN said, "NO!" it was called the Revolt of the Admirals. I have this horrible feeling that we're not going to see a separate space force until after a 20+crew spaceship is lost with all hands due to a problem the Navy has had solved for a thousand years. |
| USAFpilot | 22 Dec 2018 8:21 p.m. PST |
Lion, I'm curious, what was the Navy's solution? Or are you saying metaphorically that the Navy just knows how to operate with large crews? |
| Lion in the Stars | 23 Dec 2018 11:55 a.m. PST |
The air force has never had a single crew over 15 (B17G had a crew of 10, B24J had a crew of 11), and they've never had that crew together in one place, alone, for more than about 48 hours. Not to forget the fact that if there is something wrong with a plane, it's not the pilot's responsibility. But if there is something wrong with a ship, it is the Captain's responsibility. It's a cultural thing.
And honestly, my guess would be that the US AeroSpace Force would lose a spacecraft due to a fire, caused by a lack of cleaning. The US very nearly lost a submarine from that very thing, USS Bonefish. As it was, the "Bonefire" was a complete loss, but was towed into port. We lost 3 Sailors that day in 1988. link
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