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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian13 Dec 2018 6:48 p.m. PST

…Burning the Philadelphia was so important in the Barbary Wars, and such a dramatic aspect of Decatur's life, that it is retold by every naval historian writing about that era. Yet one element of the action remains unexplored—and casts a shadow over the story…

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DeRuyter14 Dec 2018 11:24 a.m. PST

Considering you are fighting opponents who surrender but then start fighting again when in an advantageous position this rumor is not unexpected.

PzGeneral14 Dec 2018 12:16 p.m. PST

DeRuyter,
I believe the article states those were Decatur's thoughts also….

goragrad14 Dec 2018 1:29 p.m. PST

And to the point, while there was no refutation of the claim by anyone involved on the ship, there is not an eye witness report of any prisoners killed.

However, if taken (and an offer of surrender does not have to be accepted) prisoners should not have been killed.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP14 Dec 2018 2:57 p.m. PST

Considering you are fighting opponents who surrender but then start fighting again when in an advantageous position this rumor is not unexpected.
For better or worse that may be why it happened. But again, do we know for a fact that EPWs were killed ?

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2018 5:30 p.m. PST

I read the article the other day in Naval History magazine. The idea, (accusation?) is from a single source that wasn't on the Philadelphia during the fight.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP17 Dec 2018 8:06 a.m. PST

Yes, it is easy to accuse/give an opinion but were not there … The Media does it all the time ! evil grin

Blutarski18 Dec 2018 1:37 p.m. PST

Ugly business.
Attorneys and legal thinkers are free to craft laws of war and military codes of conduct. Those who actually do the fighting at risk of their lives will be forgiven by me if they occasionally contravene such strictures in extreme and unusual cases such as Decatur faced.

That having been said, by my reading, innumerable surrendered enemy have died after the fact at the hands of their captors. Their are numerous first-person accounts from many sides attesting to this having occurred in WW1 and WW2.

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