| Tango01 | 03 Dec 2018 12:19 p.m. PST |
"When their speedy, but lightly-armoured, tanks suffered heavy losses in the Spanish Civil War, the Soviet tank designers built a replacement with thicker armour and a bigger gun – the T-34…."
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| JMcCarroll | 03 Dec 2018 4:21 p.m. PST |
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Mark 1  | 03 Dec 2018 5:06 p.m. PST |
5 Tanks does indeed make a company. If the 5 tanks are KV-2 tanks. But alas not if they are T-34 tanks. And … kinda looks like a 1942 production T-34 to me (except that it has the wrong wheels for 1942). I would have looked for a 1941 production T-34 if I wanted an "early" T-34. Or even maybe a 1940 production T-34, although those that I have in my collection are there more for the novelty of 'em (only a few hundred built). But hey, it's green, and sloped, with a 76.2mm gun, and you get more than 1, so at some level it must be a company of early T-34s. -Mark
(aka: Mk 1) |
| Lion in the Stars | 03 Dec 2018 7:39 p.m. PST |
5 tanks makes a minimum-strength Russian company in FoW rules. I bought PSC instead. |
| Col Piron | 04 Dec 2018 5:27 a.m. PST |
5 tanks makes a minimum-strength Russian company in FoW rules. Some lists 3 is the minimum number needed . |
| Achtung Minen | 04 Dec 2018 7:27 a.m. PST |
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| Fred Cartwright | 04 Dec 2018 7:52 a.m. PST |
Depends what you mean by early. Since it doesn't say early T34/76 on the box, late could refer to T34/85's. In which case it is an early T34! |
| Achtung Minen | 04 Dec 2018 7:55 a.m. PST |
Ah, I figured because it was Battlefront "early" meant their definition of "early war" (which I think is 1939-1941 for Flames of War, but I could be wrong). They DID use to make an M1940 in plastic, if I am not mistaken. It looks like they dropped it from production though… |
| Col Piron | 04 Dec 2018 9:27 a.m. PST |
They DID use to make an M1940 in plastic, if I am not mistaken. That's what they called it , but it was just an early turret on the plastic hull they already made (SBX29) . They haven't done a plastic hull with the correct shaped hatch on the hull rear ! link
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| Achtung Minen | 06 Dec 2018 5:42 p.m. PST |
Are you sure that's an M1940? Looks like it has an F-34 gun. |
| EJNashIII | 06 Dec 2018 5:44 p.m. PST |
I just don't like the plastic FOW stuff. Is it at least cheaper? |
| Col Piron | 06 Dec 2018 7:43 p.m. PST |
Are you sure that's an M1940? Looks like it has an F-34 gun. That pic is just to show the hatch shape on the hull rear .
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| Achtung Minen | 07 Dec 2018 5:36 p.m. PST |
Ah ok, thanks, very useful! |
| Lion in the Stars | 07 Dec 2018 6:17 p.m. PST |
I just don't like the plastic FOW stuff. Is it at least cheaper? Than the resin&metal tanks? Yes, significantly so. Plastic Soldier Company is much cheaper yet. |
| Frontovik | 08 Dec 2018 6:20 a.m. PST |
That pic is just to show the hatch shape on the hull rear . Yeah the first pic is a later STZ made one with the simplified mantlet. |
| Murvihill | 09 Dec 2018 7:07 a.m. PST |
There were square fuel cans on some of the early tanks too, don't see many of those in plastic. |
| Frontovik | 09 Dec 2018 2:36 p.m. PST |
There were square fuel cans on some of the early tanks too, don't see many of those in plastic. They were only for road moves and were supposed to be removed before combat. Didn't always happen that way as the photo record testifies but it's why you don't see them all that often. |
| Mark 1 | 10 Dec 2018 2:20 p.m. PST |
Note also the lack of an armored shield on the hull MG mount on the diagrams of the 1940 and 1941 production models. From the pics of the model parts on the sprue it appears that the gun shield is present (while the model provides an option for the flame gun mount, there appears to be only one MG mount, and it appears to be shielded). To my understanding the armored gun shield was only added after the 1941 combat experience showed this point to be vulnerable, and even so was only provided on a portion of the 1942 production, becoming pretty much standard on 1943 production T-34s and on T-34-85s. It appears to me to be a case of trying to make one hull that can serve as multiple versions simply by changing the turret. Gamers may indeed be expected to focus only on the armament as a distinguishing factor, but in fact there was as much variation in T-34 hulls as there was in T-34 turrets during the production life of the tank. -Mark
(aka: Mk 1) |
| Col Piron | 10 Dec 2018 5:03 p.m. PST |
Note also the lack of an armored shield on the hull MG mount on the diagrams of the 1940 and 1941 production models. From the pics of the model parts on the sprue it appears that the gun shield is present (while the model provides an option for the flame gun mount, there appears to be only one MG mount, and it appears to be shielded).
Left hand side above the 3 hatches ,is the unshielded MG. Take care when removing it from the sprue , as its easy for the carpet monster to eat it .  |
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