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08 Nov 2018 6:02 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

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GGouveia07 Nov 2018 11:39 p.m. PST

Enemy at the Gates Production Delays
As the German army invaded the Soviet Union in 1940 as part of Operation Barbarossa, Soviet industry lurched into overdrive and produced masses of material to outfit millions of troops tasked with pushing back the invasion.

nsolomon9908 Nov 2018 3:17 a.m. PST

I was under the impression that Operation Barbarossa commenced on the morning of June 22nd, 1941.

Andy Tea08 Nov 2018 3:25 a.m. PST

I think its just a typo
its just on one article on the website and their website often has typos on it

Prof Pate08 Nov 2018 3:59 a.m. PST

So bad you said it three times? Typo surely, unless they know something we don't! Did German in fact engage in a secret war across divided Poland through 1940 to test the Soviets?

BattlerBritain08 Nov 2018 5:48 a.m. PST

The Soviets also invaded Poland in 1940 at the same time as the Germans.

coopman08 Nov 2018 5:58 a.m. PST

Well, revisionist history says that it didn't happen period.

Wargamer Blue08 Nov 2018 6:02 a.m. PST

Who really cares if Battlefront made a typo?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian08 Nov 2018 6:03 a.m. PST

Actually, it was Germany that invaded. grin

Col Piron08 Nov 2018 7:51 a.m. PST

its just on one article on the website and their website often has typos on it

Yes mainly on release dates from what i'm seeing . huh?

Personal logo 28mm Fanatik Supporting Member of TMP08 Nov 2018 8:27 a.m. PST

Actually, it was Germany that invaded.

Well, Russia invaded Finland and Poland in 1939.

But yeah, BF needs better QC and proofing because its games are derived from history.

raylev308 Nov 2018 12:07 p.m. PST

Here are invasion dates in eastern Europe. In fact, and Soviet apologists forget this, the Soviet Union invaded: Finland, Nov 1939

Then, under an agreement with Hitler (Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact), the Soviet Union invaded:

** Baltic States (Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia), June 1940
** Moldova, July 1940
** Poland (in coordination with Hitler), September 1939, just over two weeks after Germany invaded. The Germans and Russians then held a joint parade after the Battle of Brest-Litovsk on 17 September.

Of course, the western allies only declared war on Germany and, due to the practical reality on the ground, Russia was allowed to keep eastern Poland after the war.

Eastern Europe was not a pleasant place to be for a loooong time.

Winston Smith Inactive Member08 Nov 2018 1:15 p.m. PST

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP08 Nov 2018 7:43 p.m. PST

Isn't it strange that Britain and France declared war on Germany because of the latter's invasion of Poland, yet did nothing when the Soviet Union Also invaded Poland in 1939, and in 1944 (I guess this was OK as they were on their way to Berlin but wouldn't let British and US forces help the Warsaw uprising), and let the RusComs keep it after the war.

Achtung Minen08 Nov 2018 8:22 p.m. PST

On the contrary, the Soviet Unions invasion of Poland and Finland really hurt their relationship with Western powers, as did their military adventures in the East. The West's impression of the USSR as a bullying superpower willing to invade neighbors for no other reason than land grabs is what largely shaped the Cold War landscape after 1945.

raylev309 Nov 2018 2:39 a.m. PST

Let's face it, the reason the western allies aligned themselves with Russia during WW2 was because when Germany invaded Russia, the "enemy of my enemy is my friend." An excellent example of Realpolitik.

Frontovik Inactive Member09 Nov 2018 6:32 a.m. PST

The 1939 invasion of Finland was also part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. which is why Germany stayed silent when it happened.

The reason nobody declared war on the USSR on, or because of, 17th September 1939 was that there was no declaration of war and the Soviets claimed to be moving to protect ethnic Ukrainians and Belarussians and Rydz-Smigly issued orders to fall back and only fight if directly attacked.

Further, British guarantees to Poland specified that they were against Germany only.

The French dumped them the way they'd dumped the Czechoslovakians in 1938. Though, to be fair, there was little they could have done for the Poles.

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