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Tango01 In the TMP Dawghouse06 Nov 2018 4:32 p.m. PST

…it in 1900s..




saltflats1929 Inactive Member06 Nov 2018 5:58 p.m. PST

If they hadn't wasted their time on 2 world wars I could have had all that cool stuff.

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Nov 2018 7:25 p.m. PST

We pretty much do have all that cool stuff.

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP06 Nov 2018 9:05 p.m. PST

And the world wars were the reason for the advancement.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2018 7:02 a.m. PST

I only count three complete misses--the weather machine, the ships on rails and the moving pavements. That goes down to two if we count air conditioning and central heating as the "nice weather machine." The moving pavements are perfectly feasible, but why would you want them?

VCarter, hard to prove a counterfactual, but I've never believed that "war fosters technological advance" any more than I believe that "war is good for the economy." Take a good look at 1815-1914. If you stop killing people and blowing things up and focus on free trade, property rights, education and science you can make spectacular technological progress without machine-gunning anyone.

Vigilant07 Nov 2018 7:58 a.m. PST

Moving pavements are in many airports. World wars may have accelerated the advancements, but probably didn't really create them.

Tango01 In the TMP Dawghouse07 Nov 2018 11:41 a.m. PST



robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2018 3:49 p.m. PST

Good point, Vigilant. Now, if they can just put the coffee shop on the pavement, so I can sit down and reach my terminal…

Hector Blackwolf Inactive Member08 Nov 2018 11:30 a.m. PST

Looking at the massive improvements in the global standard on living from 1991 to present I think it is fairly clear that not being a daggers drawn with each other is, on the whole, a net positive for humanity.

On the whole, I think the world would be a much happier place had we skipped both world wars.

von Schwartz11 Nov 2018 7:46 p.m. PST

Umm, does anyone remember a little novel by George Orwell titled 1984? Now, look around you, but don't let the thought police get you, All Hail Big Brother.

arthur181512 Nov 2018 2:47 a.m. PST

Surely wars tend to stimulate developments in military technology, some of which – such as the large aeroplane flying long distances to drop bombs, morphing into the airliner – may have civilian applications.

And some medical advances, such as skin grafts and plastic surgery, were inspired by the need to deal with terrible injuries inflicted by modern weapons.

Which is not, of course, to suggest that war has any merit because of such developments…

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