Help support TMP


"What are German WWII "T" Class torpedo boats?" Topic


13 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the WWII Naval Discussion Message Board



554 hits since 6 Nov 2018
©1994-2018 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Schogun06 Nov 2018 10:58 a.m. PST

In Lt. Cmdr. Peter Scott's book, "The Battle of the Narrow Seas," he often mentions encountering German "T" Class torpedo boats. I cannot find reference to these ships.

Any help?

Thanks

Schogun06 Nov 2018 10:59 a.m. PST

In Lt. Cmdr. Peter Scott's book, "The Battle of the Narrow Seas," he often mentions encountering German "T" Class torpedo boats. I cannot find reference to these ships.

Any help?

Thanks

JimDuncanUK06 Nov 2018 11:26 a.m. PST

Read all about them.

link

Schogun06 Nov 2018 2:50 p.m. PST

I thought T's might be Elbing Class. Thanks, Jim.

StarCruiser06 Nov 2018 4:34 p.m. PST

In general – just "Torpedo Boats"…basically small destroyers sort of in the WWI mold that Germany continued to build due to treaty restrictions from that war.

Why they continued to build some right into WWII?!?

daveshoe06 Nov 2018 5:19 p.m. PST

Like the term E-boat, which could refer to any of the schnellboots or some of the R-boats, T-boat generally referred to the various German Torpedo Boats(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_torpedo_boats_of_World_War_II)

It also probably included some of the larger minesweepers too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-class_minesweeper_(Germany))

BuckeyeBob06 Nov 2018 5:27 p.m. PST

>>Why they continued to build some right into WWII?<<
Cheaper and faster to build than regular "ocean going" destroyers. No need for the larger DD's as these would be used for coastal defense, escorting small convoys or providing security for subs and blockade runners in the coastal area. Four 4.1' guns to repulse Allied MTB's and DD's plus 6 TT's which, IIRC, sank 2 Brit cruisers.

Joe Legan Supporting Member of TMP06 Nov 2018 7:01 p.m. PST

Terminology does get fuzzy. Other countries called them Destroyer Escorts or Corvettes.

Joe

RudyNelson06 Nov 2018 10:04 p.m. PST

You can check a copy of Janes book of warships for those years. You can get them at many libraries.

Schogun07 Nov 2018 5:36 a.m. PST

Scott refers to German torpedo boats as E-boats, R-boats, E/R boats (later in war) and then "T"-boats, so I took that as being different. He encounters "T"-boats frequently so again, I took that ass being am actual different class of boat.

RudyNelson07 Nov 2018 5:46 a.m. PST

R-boats were not the traditional S-boats.

Walking Sailor07 Nov 2018 7:09 a.m. PST

link
E-boat is English for "Enemy Boat". Mostly S-boats, but also may include R-boats, T-boats, and pretty much anything that couldn't be identified in the dark.
S-boat (Schnellboot – Fast Boat) The German equivalent of allied torpedo boats, but slightly bigger and faster. link & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-boat
R-boats (Räumboot – Minesweeper boat) Were small (boats not ships) meant for coastal mine sweeping. Being lightly armed they were often pressed into service for coastal convoy escort. link & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_boat
T-boats (Torpedo boats) The torpedo was originally an underwater mine. Late in the 19th Century they were motorized to create the Automobile Torpedo. A special class of small ship (sea going) was created to use this new weapon as an economical counter to the new dreadnaught class ships. Torpedo Boats (ships) led to the creation of a new larger class of ships called Torpedo Boat Destroyers (name now shortened to Destroyer (DD)). Due to treaty restrictions inter-war Germany was limited to building T-boats, and they made lots of them. link
F-lighter (Flak Leichter) Lighters are barges. The German ones were powered and were used as convoy escorts. They were hard to sink and very heavily armed. Stay away from them if at all possible. link

Thresher0107 Nov 2018 1:34 p.m. PST

There are a variety of "torpedo boats", not to be confused with MTBs, or S-Boats.

Really, frigates, or small destroyers.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.