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Hecoma05 Nov 2018 3:47 p.m. PST

Please can anyone help me with the identification on the shako worn by this 15mm Minifigs figure? It looks like a french infantry shako. Thanks for your comments.
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RudyNelson05 Nov 2018 4:14 p.m. PST

That would be the beginning of the war FELT shako. This was the shako worn by USA officers assigned to organize militia units at frontier settlements. It is why the officers at Fort Mims are shown wearing the felt shako.


The post war belltop shAKO WAS MORE FLARED.
tHE LATER WAR WAS A COPY OF THE bELGIC SHAKO. It was made of leather and called the Leather shako.

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2018 4:27 p.m. PST

It is certainly not an American 'Tombstone shako' for the period mid 1813 to 1815.

It somewhat resembles an American early war yeoman shako, however, this figure appears to have flounders on the side of the shako instead of tassels (hard to tell re lack of contrast), a French indicator.

Also, check the shako cords, if they fall in front of the shako like u shape then it is unlikely American. Instead, American shako cords went from the top left to the bottom right (as you are looking at the shako front).

So it appears that this is a French infantryman.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2018 5:17 p.m. PST

I've seen this before on early War of 1812 US. Can't speak to the historicity, but I expect that's what it was intended to represent. Note that a number of the fancier militia units would have worn something similar, and given US logistics, there's no telling when the last ones were pulled from service.

Glengarry505 Nov 2018 5:21 p.m. PST

Perhaps it is still meant to be an American shako but the sculpt is simply incorrect?
PS The 1813-1814 leather shako and the tombstone shako are the same shako.

UpperCanada05 Nov 2018 6:00 p.m. PST

Early shako…1812 to spring 1813…later, with some units, when the barentino model (in leather) spread up.

Look at US drill manuals like Duane's translation of the french, and you'll see this in the plates.

Hecoma07 Nov 2018 1:23 p.m. PST

Thank you very much!

AICUSV14 Dec 2018 11:00 p.m. PST

I believe this figure is the Minifig's US Marine.

Brechtel198 Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2018 7:05 a.m. PST

Rene Chartrand published an accurate and interesting book on American uniforms for the War of 1812 (he also did one for the British). Both are highly recommended:

-A Most Warlike Appearance: Uniforms, Flags, and Equipment of the United States in the War of 1812, published in 2011.

-A Scarlet Coat: Uniforms, Flags and Equipment of the British in the War of 1812, published in 2011.

Both are heavily illustrated and have some color paintings included, some by Partice Courcelle in the US volume.

The prints produced by The Company of Military Historians are also valuable resources and can help with uniform questions.

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