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TodCreasey Supporting Member of TMP30 Oct 2018 6:08 a.m. PST

I have seen references to Philistine chariots being ox carts but it seems that these may be transport carts that were mistaken as chariots.

I think the right answer is to use Sea Peoples chariots but I am not an expert – what is everyone else using?

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP30 Oct 2018 6:17 a.m. PST

Horses or onagers

phil bagnall30 Oct 2018 8:14 a.m. PST

Horses for the chariots, which were not dissimilar to Mitanni/Syrian in style IIRC. The ox wagons were part of the baggage train containing migrating families according to most references, but a friend of mine couldn't resist fielding them as heavy chariots with 3 crew in a FoG army some years back

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member30 Oct 2018 10:05 p.m. PST

Ox chariots?

Not unless they give oxen lots and lots of amphetamines, caffeine, or sugar, or all three, and then some.


advocate31 Oct 2018 2:14 a.m. PST

DBA used to classify the Sea People ox-drawn wagons as "War Wagons" I believe. Philistines were settled and I'd expect took on the trappings of local nobility, including horse-drawn chariots (consider the differences between Normans and their 'cousins' he Vikings after just 50 or 100 years).

evilgong Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2018 2:42 a.m. PST

DBMM has / had them as Inferior (I) war-wagons – (which are not loaded with missile men and non-shooting under the rules) on the basis that the people fighting from them, as shown on Egyptian reliefs, may represent an expected combat mode rather than just enemy attacking the mobile baggage.

If you're making up a Sea-Persons army having some ox carts is desirable to the point of compulsory – for the cool factor alone.

For the OP I think the theory is the Sea-People had a few horse chariots for nobles; and as mentioned in another post used more when they became settled land owners.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2018 4:57 a.m. PST

The earlier Bronze Age cultures like the Sumerians used Onagers to pull their war carts.

Cyrus the Great31 Oct 2018 6:07 p.m. PST

Horses. Their chariots were similar to the Egyptian ones, but the number of spokes in the wheels were different.

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