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Comments or corrections?

Markconz27 Oct 2018 9:51 p.m. PST

I notice Perry sells these variants, for command but not line. What are the uniform differences? Something to do with the Raupenhelm maybe? Cheers.

baxterj28 Oct 2018 3:13 a.m. PST

The officers sash from memory?

Artilleryman28 Oct 2018 3:54 a.m. PST

Yes. In 1809 officers wore a silver and cornflower blue waist sash as a symbol of office. This included infantry, cavalry and artillery. By 1812, the Bavarians had not only adopted a French-style organisation but also had taken on board some influence in their uniforms. Officers dropped the sash and instead wore a gorget when on duty in the same manner as their allies in the infantry and artillery. The cavalry did not wear the gorget but also dropped the sash.

Also, as a matter of interest, while the chevaulegers at the beginning of 1809 wore a light green jacket, at the end of the year, they had adopted a dark green version which they would wear for the next few decades.

Hope that helps.

Prince of Essling28 Oct 2018 6:25 a.m. PST

Indeed sashes as illustrated:


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP28 Oct 2018 11:50 a.m. PST

Should have been a great link Pr of Ess, but I just got an error message

Markconz28 Oct 2018 12:38 p.m. PST

Ok great thank you! (And yes link seems broken unfortunately).

von Winterfeldt28 Oct 2018 12:45 p.m. PST

yes indeed 1809 sash – 1812 no sash but gorget.

Prince of Essling28 Oct 2018 1:04 p.m. PST

Oops try this one instead from Cantler's Die Bayerischen Armee

Markconz28 Oct 2018 1:24 p.m. PST

Excellent thank you PoE!

rmaker28 Oct 2018 3:03 p.m. PST

IIRC, there was a minor difference in the raupenhelm, too, probably unnoticeable at wargaming scales.

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