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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian23 Oct 2018 7:27 p.m. PST

Do you enjoy "checking out new rulesets" as part of the miniature wargaming hobby?

JimSelzer Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2018 8:18 p.m. PST

yes I have more time to read then I have to play or paint

Space Ghost Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2018 10:22 p.m. PST

Oh, yes, it's a big part of the hobby for me. Always interested to see what others do in their rules, and there is always that hope that this or that new rule set could be "the one" that ticks all the boxes for what you want in rules.

advocate24 Oct 2018 1:44 a.m. PST

Yes

figuresales24 Oct 2018 1:45 a.m. PST

Yes, If they are free or cheap pdf versions. Otherwise absolutely not. I won't pay out $20 USD-$30 or more for an untried, unseen rulebook.

I don't need all the bells and whistles of the rules just enough to playtest command and control, movement and combat.

blacksmith24 Oct 2018 4:05 a.m. PST

Yes. Read them and collect them.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 4:31 a.m. PST

It may partially be a reflection of game wants. At one end of the scale are those who enjoy a game based upon the visual spectacle. Therefore the rules don't matter much. The umpire will control the game and can always make something up. At the other end of the scale are gamers for whom the figures can be unpainted because the important thing are the game mechanisms. They have no umpire to master the rules or make stuff up. As with many distributions I suspect that most gamers (myself included) are in the middle somewhere.
The further to the first "type" ,the less you need rules. The further to the second "type" the more you need the rules. This might imply that the second set of folk will pay more for rules, as they are more important to their game style.

A basic set of rules, with no scenario generator, victory criteria or other guidance, might "crumble" if not many games are played.


I play about 250 full games a year, so would need rules that have replay value and can be used in a variety of social situations. Thus I would be happy to pay $45 USD for a rule set. Albeit I would need to know a little about the mechanisms before hand.

Having said all this I appreciate that I make many generalisations which might be utter rubbish, but think all contributions to the conversation are appreciated (possibly not)??


martin

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 5:36 a.m. PST

Yes. I enjoy reading and learning from others' designs.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 6:45 a.m. PST

I will check them out by playing them. I will not buy them just to check them out unless something about them really grabs me.

mad monkey 124 Oct 2018 6:49 a.m. PST

Yep.

coopman24 Oct 2018 8:49 a.m. PST

Absolutely!

witteridderludo24 Oct 2018 10:14 a.m. PST

my rules collection would say yes to that 😆

21eRegt24 Oct 2018 10:15 a.m. PST

I used to but not so much anymore.

Old Contemptibles Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 11:17 a.m. PST

No, I have a difficult enough time reading the ones I use for actual gaming. The group I belong to plays so many different rules that we get them mixed up during games.

Oberlindes Sol LIC24 Oct 2018 11:26 a.m. PST

I'm in Martin Goddard's middle. Rules are interesting to me, but not more interesting than the other aspects of the hobby.

Much lLike Figuresales and 79thPA, I'll check out free and cheap rules, but I won't buy more expensive rules until I've played the game a few times and decided that I like it well enough to learn the rules and run games.

Ragbones Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 11:28 a.m. PST

No. I've got a couple favorites with which I stay.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 1:57 p.m. PST

I collect rules, a hobby all it's own.

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 3:44 p.m. PST

Definitely. I like to collect rules sets for periods that I enjoy.

FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 5:30 p.m. PST

I used to buy all the rules for one of my favorite periods then I got a set that was poorly edited and that slowed my enthusiasm for blindly buying rules.

Now if there's a PDF and it's reasonably priced I will get it but I'm much more selective.

UshCha25 Oct 2018 10:59 a.m. PST

No, I wait to see a review that shows that the state of the art has moved forward. Current rules to me are moving more and more to the "first type" which are of absolutely no interest to me. Bring back the days when simulation was the key and keenly debated. When that comes back there may be better rules than mine and once again I may buy rules.

SultanSevy25 Oct 2018 4:40 p.m. PST

Love to buy rules and read through them. It's a major part of the wargaming hobby to me.

Toy Soldier Green29 Oct 2018 7:25 p.m. PST

Yes

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Nov 2018 11:19 a.m. PST

For the curious: here is a list of my rules collection. The column labeled HC? indicates (with an X) if I own a copy or not. PDF means I have a PDF.

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