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Tango0122 Oct 2018 1:13 p.m. PST

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Winged Hussar22 Oct 2018 1:14 p.m. PST

I'm in the process of painting up a Macedonian army for LADG in 28MM. Fairly straightforward army that includes a # of Greek hoplite units. Given that I'm leaning towards Philips army I am using the League of Corinth as a guideline for which city-states to include. The members were Corinth, Athens, Delphi, Olympia, and Pydna. Finding examples of 'uniform' is a challenge. Athens isn't that hard, but I'd like to find 2-3 of the others to base my painting on. Anyone have examples? Sites? books?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2018 4:19 p.m. PST

Winged, I think you have that wide range of options which comes from there being so little information. I've heard guesswork, but I don't think you can clearly associate any polis on you list with a particular shield decoration in your period. I'd say that gives you the options of
1. a symbol associated with the polis. (Corinth really ought to be a bunch of grapes, but I could be biased.)
2. the first letter of the polis' name in the Greek alphabet.
3. a medley of individual shield designs, and there all I can say is that they seem to be simpler and more geometrical than they were a generation or two before.

It probably beats being sniped at over what shade of red the Napoleonic facing colors were.

Winged Hussar22 Oct 2018 4:28 p.m. PST

Robert, fully agreed there! Spartans have their read and symbol, easy. Then everyone else went with the red. I've seen Athenian trim on the uniform as a sky blue, which I like, and will use for that unit. Consistency in helm plume isn't much an issue either (6-8 figures per unit in LADG) so matching is okay. Doing one of the others in red works as well, now to track down something that gives me a sense of the color that city-state used. Appreciate your points on the shields and likely to head in that direction.
Cheers!
Phil

Grelber22 Oct 2018 8:55 p.m. PST

In some cities was it not the custom to use the symbol of their patron deity on their shields?

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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2018 3:43 a.m. PST

Greiber, the only ones everyone seems to agree on are a trident of Neptune for Manitea and a club of Hercules for Thebes--which is why I sarcastically suggested a bunch of grapes for Corinth. Every now and then someone mentions an owl for Athens, but no one gives anything I would accept for evidence. I suppose you could use a bow for Delphi, but at that point you've passed "the surviving evidence indicates" and arrived at "I think we can get away with."

LORDGHEE05 Nov 2018 12:52 a.m. PST

this should help

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juat type in hoplite shield designs into google image search

williamb09 Nov 2018 6:10 p.m. PST

link site with actual hoplite shield patterns

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