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"Ancients Rulesets Need to Be Serious" Topic

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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Oct 2018 4:54 p.m. PST

True or false – to do justice to the period, Ancients rules need to be complicated.

dragon620 Oct 2018 5:05 p.m. PST

Serious sure. Complicated? No

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2018 5:12 p.m. PST


Northern Monkey20 Oct 2018 5:56 p.m. PST


6mmACW20 Oct 2018 6:13 p.m. PST

This doesn't even make sense.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2018 7:34 p.m. PST

Uhm, "serious" and "complicated" are not synonyms. They're not even related terms. Indeed, one can have a complicated set of rules that is in no way serious, and one can have a serious set of rules that aren't complicated.

In any case, for either case, the answer to the original question is "no."

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2018 9:36 p.m. PST

I have no idea what this question means.

Lucius21 Oct 2018 2:19 a.m. PST

They need to be, "fun".

langobard Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2018 2:23 a.m. PST


HANS GRUBER21 Oct 2018 3:31 a.m. PST


Our true understanding of ancient warfare isn't deep enough to require a complicated set of rules.

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2018 3:38 a.m. PST


FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2018 4:28 a.m. PST


Bob in Edmonton21 Oct 2018 7:24 a.m. PST


Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2018 9:44 a.m. PST

Benvartok21 Oct 2018 12:18 p.m. PST

To maintain interest in an online forum clickbait needs to be serious and complicated.

Saurocet21 Oct 2018 2:33 p.m. PST

When in the history of civilization have humans not over complicated things? Ergo, ancient warfare must have been complicated. Out of which we get complicated rules to simulate it.

John Leahy21 Oct 2018 3:21 p.m. PST

Agreed. The question makes no sense. Why would an Ancients set need to be complicated?

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Oct 2018 3:30 p.m. PST

Smaller numbers of people using more primitive weapons and spending a larger proportion of their time in transit vice combat … what could be more complex?

So, false, neither serious nor complicate.

khanscom21 Oct 2018 4:07 p.m. PST

False-- I don't consider DBABB or DBM to be complicated, but elegant. WRG 5th is complicated.

Henry Martini21 Oct 2018 5:22 p.m. PST

Bobgnar – this question means that the editor wants to increase the site's post count :- ).

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2018 5:36 p.m. PST

What does complicated have to do with serious?

False, an Ancient rules set can be both easy and serious.

Rich Bliss21 Oct 2018 6:35 p.m. PST


Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2018 6:33 a.m. PST

False, complication not required.

Black Hat Miniatures22 Oct 2018 9:03 a.m. PST

Of course they do – otherwise you are just playing toy soldiers with little men with pointy sticks….

Cyrus the Great22 Oct 2018 3:54 p.m. PST


Royal Marine Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2018 9:14 p.m. PST

Isn't this post a poll?

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2018 4:04 a.m. PST


coopman23 Oct 2018 4:01 p.m. PST

I've never played an ancients rules set that didn't seem serious about its subject.

Chariobaude30 Nov 2018 8:22 p.m. PST

rubbish q

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2018 3:39 a.m. PST

So what are you asking? Serious or Complicated? They don't necessarily go together.

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP03 Dec 2018 2:15 p.m. PST

Doesn't have to either, just has to be good.

And 'good' is totally subjective.



colin knight04 Dec 2018 2:22 a.m. PST

Used to think so to make playing with model figures seem intellectual and adult.
Not anymore. Just need to play well while still being historical. A game rather than simulation.

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