"Ancients Rulesets Need to Be Serious" Topic

True or false – to do justice to the period, Ancients rules need to be complicated.

Serious sure. Complicated? No

False.

Neither.

This doesn't even make sense.

Uhm, "serious" and "complicated" are not synonyms. They're not even related terms. Indeed, one can have a complicated set of rules that is in no way serious, and one can have a serious set of rules that aren't complicated.

In any case, for either case, the answer to the original question is "no."

I have no idea what this question means.

They need to be, "fun".

False.

False.

Our true understanding of ancient warfare isn't deep enough to require a complicated set of rules.

False

False

False

When in the history of civilization have humans not over complicated things? Ergo, ancient warfare must have been complicated. Out of which we get complicated rules to simulate it.

Agreed. The question makes no sense. Why would an Ancients set need to be complicated?

Smaller numbers of people using more primitive weapons and spending a larger proportion of their time in transit vice combat … what could be more complex?

So, false, neither serious nor complicate.

False-- I don't consider DBABB or DBM to be complicated, but elegant. WRG 5th is complicated.

What does complicated have to do with serious?

False, an Ancient rules set can be both easy and serious.

False

False, complication not required.

Of course they do – otherwise you are just playing toy soldiers with little men with pointy sticks….

False.

Isn't this post a poll?

False.

I've never played an ancients rules set that didn't seem serious about its subject.

rubbish q

So what are you asking? Serious or Complicated? They don't necessarily go together.

Doesn't have to either, just has to be good.

And 'good' is totally subjective.

Thanks,

Pat

Used to think so to make playing with model figures seem intellectual and adult.
Not anymore. Just need to play well while still being historical. A game rather than simulation.