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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2018 3:32 p.m. PST

…. To The Allies

"The United States tried to resist entanglement in World War II. But when Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese in December 1941, all that resistance evaporated, and the U.S. government rallied its troops to assist the Allied campaign on two continents.

Many historic battles took place during the war, well known simply by their names, such as Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge.

However, wars involve more skirmishes than epic conflicts like Normandy–war is won in small increments, and most do not become well known to civilians

Yet they still merit mention when recounting how the Allies won the war, one small but significant victory at a time.

The battle between the Germans and the Allies at Chouigui Pass in Tunisia is just such a battle. It was the first conflict between them, taking place on an unassuming patch of countryside in the Mediterranean arena of the war, and it involved tanks…."


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Legion 420 Oct 2018 3:47 p.m. PST

I find the early war battles especially in NA very interesting.

Richard Baber21 Oct 2018 2:02 a.m. PST

Tunisia is my favourite campaign by far, we`ve run half a dozen games and have another 5-6 planned.

Vigilant21 Oct 2018 5:16 a.m. PST

End of 1942 early war? Early war is 1939 to the end of 1941 at best. After that upgraded tanks such as the Lee/Grant and Sherman started to change things for the allies.

Legion 421 Oct 2018 7:03 a.m. PST

Yes, I guess I should have stated early to mid-war … so '39-'42. Thank you for the correction …

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2018 1:08 p.m. PST

Early for the Americans …

Glad you like it my good friend!. (smile)


Mark 121 Oct 2018 1:20 p.m. PST

Kind of disappointed in the article.

What I consider a much better account* can be found here: link

*If I do say so myself. Which I just did. ;)

(aka: Mk 1)

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2018 6:25 a.m. PST

For those interested in playing the campaign I highly suggest "The Race for Tunis: A CD III Mini Campaign" by Frank Chadwick, Greg Novak, Tom Harris, John Holtz et al. That is, of course, if you can find a copy (they do come up now and then). I was one of the lucky few to get a free copy, from Greg Novak, as an apology for missing issues of Command Post Quarterly (CPQ).

Legion 422 Oct 2018 7:25 a.m. PST

Early for the Americans …
Good point Tango !

Richard Baber22 Oct 2018 7:31 a.m. PST


Frank/Greg mailed me a copy with hand written notes way back during the days of command Post when I was writing to them asking questions – pen and paper and airmail letters :)

One of my prize possessions along with all issues of CPQ and CD2 still in its box :)

Richard Baber22 Oct 2018 7:35 a.m. PST

It should be added research has moved on somewhat since Race to Tunis and most of the orbats need major re-structuring/re-writing and some were obviously just plain guesswork way back then :)

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2018 11:13 a.m. PST

Thanks for the link!.


Mark 122 Oct 2018 12:32 p.m. PST

Thanks for the link!.

Guessing that this was in reply to my posting:
What I consider a much better account* can be found here: link

*If I do say so myself. Which I just did.

In the interest of full disclosure, which was somewhat draped in sophistry by my prior post, I should perhaps mention that I researched and wrote the article I linked to. Mentioned that in other threads at other times, but perhaps should be said again, here. Somehow I'm guessing that not everyone is keeping a running tally of my personal disclosures…

(aka: Mk 1)

Richard Baber23 Oct 2018 12:08 a.m. PST

Some of us don`t care, we just read your posts for fun :)

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2018 5:56 a.m. PST

I was impressed Greg took the added step of actually signing the apology letter and in green ink so you know his signature wasnt reproduced.

Wouldnt it be nice to see an updated version.

All good memories Richard, thanks for sharing.


Richard Baber23 Oct 2018 2:05 p.m. PST

They were genuine nice guys (Frank still is :)

Seems so long ago now :)

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